MotoGP 2015

[cirrusflyer]

The move itself from Rossi seemed calculated to me. At the very least he wanted to run him wide and get him out of the way.

Rossis words postrace were:
In turn 14 I run wider, to have better corner exit and to slow down Marc. He just fell. And some more things about Marc beeing annoying for 10 laps.

[Juzh]

If Marquez really wanted to help Lorenzo, he'd not have passed him for the lead with 1km to go in the last race.

This basically. People just dismiss it as if it never happened.

[Shrieker]

If Marquez really wanted to help Lorenzo, he'd not have passed him for the lead with 1km to go in the last race.

Yep fully agreed.

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M&M is a racer thru and thru. I don't think he was trying to mess up Rossi's race. He was just unfortunate that he ended up being as slow as Rossi was during the race: Only one guy to fight, and fight he did. Rossi should've just hanged on to the coattails of his teammate but he simply wasn't quick enough.

[MadMatt]

Rossi is a twat. Never like his arrogant attitude, this behavior is noway something a true champion would do. Sore looser.

[Shrieker]

Yet, he is much loved. People are like that

[RZS10]

From what i've gathered on the interwebs they couldn't prove that Rossi deliberately kicked Marquez off the bike.

Maq said he kicked him and hit his handlebar/brake, that this caused the front to lock up.
Rossi claims his foot slipped after they touched.

Everyone saw Marquez' version of what happened. I'm fairly sure the stewards would have been able to prove that it was deliberate with pretty much any driver apart from Rossi

The penalty points he got were for pushing Marquez wide.

The stewards even claim that Marquez was just as much at fault as Rossi, even though he drove well within what is allowed by the regulations. So they judged Marquez intent to f*** with Rossi and feel bad they can't do sh*t because there's no rule by which they could penalize him, but when the video material from all cameras clearly shows that Rossi in some form kicked Marquez it's not 'clear enough' to penalize him for that because Rossi said the opposite...

[bdr529]

What was obvius for the hole race is that Marquez was on a mission to obstruct Rossi in anyway possible, and thus provoking an incident was just a question of time.

That's called racing. Paranoid Rossi himself thought there's something more sinister behind it. Arm waving and all. You never saw marq do anything like that. Remember rossi calling out stoner when he pointed out some moves by rossi were too much? He called it racing then, he should call it racing now.

I never said this, could you please edit that quote

What was obvius for the hole race is that Marquez was on a mission to obstruct Rossi in anyway possible, and thus provoking an incident was just a question of time.

[f1316]

All a bit of a shame and if you look at the primary instigator, I think it's Marquez.

key word there "THINK". Reality though, much different.

I said 'I think' because I have the humility to acknowledge that it's just an opinion. The 'reality' is not otherwise just because you say so.

[bdr529]

It was starting to look like an old Rainey vs. Schwantz battle
Rossi spoiled what was some good action between them with a stupid move
Great ride by Pedrosa and nice pass by Lorenzo on Rossi

Sorry bro, Marquez hit Rossi with his head before Rossi reacted with his left leg and Marquez crahsed. What was obvius for the hole race is that Marquez was on a mission to obstruct Rossi in anyway possible, and thus provoking an incident was just a question of time.

The stupid move that I'm speaking of is Rossi slowing down below racing speed and trying to pushing Marquez wide
Rossi had the inside line to that corner, he had no need to do that

What was obvius for the hole race is that Marquez was on a mission to obstruct Rossi in anyway possible

Sorry I don't see it that way Bro

https://video-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvide ... e=562D0CC0

[turbof1]

I have now seen the footage. The overhead shot showed a clear kick, right after he was looking where Marquez was at the moment. He actually hit him with the foot to the bike and knee to to the head.

I have to make an apology. I previously stated the penalty was appropiate, but now I feel they should have disqualified him. That was a deliberate moving without any care for the risks it imposes on the integrity of the body of Marquez. Atleast in F1 Michael Schumacher got all his points deducted for a similar deliberate move.

[MadMatt]

Valentino Rossi Racing 2015 just came out

[turbof1]

Looks like Marquez first leaned on Rossi's knee. However, after that Rossi kicked/pushed with his leg towards Marquez.

[MadMatt]

From what I see Rossi had a look at Marquez, and also enlarged his trajectory to go towards Marquez (helicopter view clearly shows it).

[RZS10]

He checked for Maq's position several times, i suppose he wanted to run him off track in oder to get rid of him but was maybe surprised that Maq was already leaning in that much

[nacho]

First I was sure Rossi kicked him, now I'm not completely sure. It could be that the right handlebar bar of Marquez tangles with Rossi's shin/ankle.

However it is, this race was the mother of all disappointments and kind of ruins and epic season.