Honda F1 project leader Yusuke Hasegawa has outlined a number of reasons why Honda has been struggling so badly in the beginning of the 2017 Formula One season. He confirmed that lots of problems were not discovered while running on the dynamo meter.
Either A123Systems or Yuasagodlameroso wrote:I'm sure Honda's turbos are manufactured exactly as Honda wants to the extent it might as well be in house. Furthermore, Honda has a lot of subsidiaries such as Kehin, Modulo, NOK, which although separate companies are essentially just an arm of Honda. I think their power unit is as 'in house' as Mercedes.
*I wonder who makes their battery pack, I want to say Panasonic but I doubt it.
I guess Yuasa would make sense since they're working together in BTCC.Wazari wrote:Either A123Systems or Yuasagodlameroso wrote:I'm sure Honda's turbos are manufactured exactly as Honda wants to the extent it might as well be in house. Furthermore, Honda has a lot of subsidiaries such as Kehin, Modulo, NOK, which although separate companies are essentially just an arm of Honda. I think their power unit is as 'in house' as Mercedes.
*I wonder who makes their battery pack, I want to say Panasonic but I doubt it.
Not only the turbocharger but the energy recovery systems are token free upgrades this yearME4ME wrote:I strongly believe that to be incorrect. Turbocharger design changes will definitely cost tokens.nevill3 wrote:Don't forget the new Turbocharger will not use any tokens because of the new requirement to vent the wastegate flow through a separate exhaust pipe.
The only issue the teams have is the timescales required to maximise any advantage they could gain from this "token free" upgrade. The FIA only clarified the new rules in late December and the teams must have already planned a development route to maximise their token use for 2016.According to the letter Mercedes, Ferrari, Renault and Honda will be permitted to use 32 tokens insted of the planned 25 contingent. In the following years 20, 15 and 3 tokens will be at their disposal. That should open up possibilities for struggling engine manufacturers to close in on the field leading Mercedes.
On top of the tokens' quantity, FIA permits the teams to work on every part of the turbo and the hybrid system.
However for 2015 three items (with a total weighting of five tokens) are frozen in specification and cannot be modified. These are:
Upper/lower crankcase: Cylinder bore spacing, deck height and bank stagger
Crankshaft: Crank throw, main bearing journal diameter and rod bearing journal diameter
Air valve system: Including the compressor and air pressure regulation devices
The number of frozen items will increase again next year, stay the same in 2017, increase again the following year and significantly increase for 2019 and beyond. Therefore teams may wish to prioritise development on items which will be frozen in specification sooner rather than later.
McLaren user A123 batteries on the P1. I wonder which part of the team handles it...mikeerfol wrote:I guess Yuasa would make sense since they're working together in BTCC.Wazari wrote:Either A123Systems or Yuasagodlameroso wrote:I'm sure Honda's turbos are manufactured exactly as Honda wants to the extent it might as well be in house. Furthermore, Honda has a lot of subsidiaries such as Kehin, Modulo, NOK, which although separate companies are essentially just an arm of Honda. I think their power unit is as 'in house' as Mercedes.
*I wonder who makes their battery pack, I want to say Panasonic but I doubt it.
So they are going to test the new MP4-31 on a dyno?Wazari wrote:It is also my understanding that the first of the 2016 PU's are being mated to the MP4-31 chassis sometime this week.
[-o<Good news,and very smart choice of words!Wazari wrote:
It is also my understanding that the first of the 2016 PU's are being mated to the MP4-31 chassis sometime this week.
Did you "understand" anything else maybe? 
Wazari wrote: I would assume they will be testing the new chassis/PU combination on the dyno soon.
The overall turbo design could be in collaboration with Borgwarner though... It just smells of Borg warner - they have been known to try really unusual designs.GoranF1 wrote:The fact that of current manufactures Mercedes is the only one that builds their TC in-house, is probably a very big advantage for the Germans in this new engine regulations.
