New qualifying format...

[nevill3]

The teams have already agreed to the changes.

http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... =1&t=23869

It is just the exact wording of the new rules that we are waiting for now.

[Henk]

It would force drivers to improve every lap though.

which is nearly impossible with the Pirrelli tires.

Is this still true for wet-to-dry conditions?

[nevill3]

Motorsport.com are saying the teams have had a second vote (E-vote) today (Thursday) and have unanimously agreed to the new format.

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-el ... 78522/?s=1

[Juzh]

New regs in words: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/03/11/f ... ualifying/

The way I see it, mercedes will be even better off. They go out early, set a lap time which will definitely take them further into qualifying and then just sit pretty in the pits. Meanwhile their rivals who are likely more closely packed will self-destruct trying to navigate a million car traffic, burning engines, burning tires..

[FrukostScones]

mmm. makes no big difference now...
But only a Top 8...
arent the tyres rules made for a Top Ten Q3 last group....
was anything rewritten there?

[bjpower]

Are you allowed finish your current lap?
ie. if you start your lap at 6 mins 30 seconds into Q3 are you allowed finish before they decide you are eliminated?
or is it bang on the 7 min mark you are gone?

[motobaleno]

according to the written rules I've read on omnicorse.it, at the mark time you cannot finish the lap, you are out immediately. except for the last mark (the end of the session)

[Gridlock]

https://adamcooperf1.com/2016/03/11/new ... gulations/

From 14.00 to 14.16 (Q1) all cars will be permitted on the track. Seven minutes after the start of the session the driver last in the classification will be eliminated and will no longer be timed, he must then return to the pit lane and may take no further part in the qualifying practice session. The same procedure will then apply after 8m30s, 10m0s,11m30s, 13m0s and 14m30s leaving sixteen cars eligible to continue. At the end of the session all drivers on the track may complete the lap they are on and, once these final laps have been completed, the driver last in the classification may take no further part in the qualifying practice session.

[F1NAC]

Are you allowed finish your current lap?
ie. if you start your lap at 6 mins 30 seconds into Q3 are you allowed finish before they decide you are eliminated?
or is it bang on the 7 min mark you are gone?

no, you are eliminated. Only last one from group who will drop out is decided when time runs out(chequered flag goes down) and then everybody are allowed to finish their laps and after that the slowest goes out.

[TAG]

It's going to make all those 90+ second circuits extra loony especially if they're going to require a cool down lap for the tires between attempts.

[FrukostScones]

mmm. makes no big difference now...
But only a Top 8...
arent the tyres rules made for a Top Ten Q3 last group....
was anything rewritten there?

the rules say Q3...
so from 9th position they can chose their tyres now for the race from now on.

[Chuckjr]

This article with the rules side by side may help a few folks. I'll just post the opening part and not all the rules. It helps to see them side by side--at least it was helpful for me.
Source: http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/5568 ... explained/

2016 F1 new elimination-style qualifying explained
The new F1 elimination-style qualifying format which involves live elimination will be applied from the first race at Melbourne in Australia following it was approved by the sport governing body FIA.
2016 F1 new elimination-style qualifying, which was proposed by the F1 commission and Strategy Group, has not obtained positive reactions from most the F1 drivers. Four-time world champion and Ferrari ace Sebastian Vettel has personally expressed his worry regarding the new elimination-style qualifying, while defending world champion Lewis Hamilton questioned the direction the sport is taking with all the changes.
New elimination-style qualifying format will see drivers being eliminated every 90 seconds in Q1, Q2 and Q3.

2016 F1 NEW ELIMINATION-STYLE QUALIFYING FORMAT
Q1: Sixteen minute session. After seven minutes, the slowest driver is eliminated, a process which continues every 90 seconds thereafter until chequered flag. Seven drivers eliminated.
Q2: Fifteen minute session. After six minutes, the slowest driver is eliminated, a process which is repeated every 90 seconds until chequered flag. Seven drivers eliminated.
Q3: Fifteen minutes session. After six minutes the slowest driver is eliminated, every 90 seconds until end of session. The quickest of the two drivers left in the final 90 seconds wins pole position.

[henry]

I wonder what technical preparations the teams will have made to handle this?

For instance : it is possible there might be a long queue of cars sitting at the end of the pit lane at the beginning of each session. If so they might have done more work on keeping the engine cooling in bounds and improved abilities to get the tyres up to temperature.

The rules are specifically designed to prevent two normal timed laps, 5 laps and a pit stop. I wonder if the faster teams might load up a target lap on the steering wheel and if behind it, because of a mistake or yellow flag for instance, they will abort and try another lap making 4 laps and a pit stop which is just doable in Q1 and Q2.

[wuzak]

I predict that in Q1 about half the cars will do only one lap and park it.

Half the remaining cars will not likely to be able to set two times, and those that do will be a second lap on the same set and are unlikely to improve.

A similar situation in Q2.

In Q3 I expect that there will be few cars doing times past half way - they will set a time in the first 5 minutes. Some cars will be eliminated before they have a chance to set a second time, while the remaining cars will set their second time quite early to avoid being eliminated in that way.

The only way I see two cars fighting for pole in the last 90s is if they have such an advantage they can afford to wait, and that would only be the Mercedes.

[wuzak]

It's going to make all those 90+ second circuits extra loony especially if they're going to require a cool down lap for the tires between attempts.

Spa in the wet will be hilarious! 2m+ times. They may get 2 consecutive flying laps in Q1, if the hustle on the out lap, but thereafter it will be entirely random. In Q2 and Q3 it will be virtually impossible to do 2 flying laps in a row. Even in the dry they couldn't do 2 flying laps in a row in Q3 at Spa.