2016 McLaren F1 Team - Honda

[noname]

Why Honda has not open a tech center in UK so two teams can work on the programme?

Mugen in UK is doing just that.

[Thunder]

And they have their Milton Keynes Base.

[FW17]

Milton Keynes Base is a race operations site, not an R&D center

[Thunder]

Iirc it was at the start, but they expanded.

http://www.crash.net/f1/news/220420/1/h ... teams.html
http://www.miltonkeynes.co.uk/news/loca ... -1-6714723

Says R&D.

[max_speed]

this is quite cool..

http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/5584 ... _of_plane/

[PlatinumZealot]

So is the chassis now the weakest link? If Red Bull is close to challenging Ferrari with a Renault PU, surely the Mclaren chassis needs some work?

Who says the honda is better than the renault right now? The renault guys have markedly improved by the looks of things. I really donut the honda is more powerful than renault right now... Maybe close but not better.

[Juzh]

So is the chassis now the weakest link? If Red Bull is close to challenging Ferrari with a Renault PU, surely the Mclaren chassis needs some work?

Who says the honda is better than the renault right now? The renault guys have markedly improved by the looks of things. I really donut the honda is more powerful than renault right now... Maybe close but not better.

Hard to make any solid comparatives, but lets try as best we can:
I took a few stills from the onboards. Make of them what you will.
One captures a car exiting final turn, the other one is a start/finish line. Incredible how vettel's 216 kmh at the first line from lap 1 doesn't get matched even by mercs troughout entire race. The only one probably faster was ricciardo and vettel himself from later on but there's no onboard footage.

http://imgur.com/a/RLU41

[Thunder]

Bahrain Team Preview is up:

http://www.mclaren.com/formula1/2016/ba ... x-preview/

[danielk]

this is quite cool..

http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/5584 ... _of_plane/

hmmmm I'm glad that was CGI. With Mclarens deployment issues over the last year im surprised they were able to deploy the parachute

[bauc]

http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/150 ... alia-crash

The engine used by ALO in the first race can not be saved, as it was too damaged along its all supporting components.

20 races to go with 4 engines for ALO.

[Jaeger]

this is quite cool..

http://gptoday.com/full_story/view/5584 ... _of_plane/

hmmmm I'm glad that was CGI. With Mclarens deployment issues over the last year im surprised they were able to deploy the parachute

Wow in the last seconds of the video they used the music from Microprose F1 Gp intro

[Morteza]

http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/150 ... alia-crash

The engine used by ALO in the first race can not be saved, as it was too damaged along its all supporting components.

20 races to go with 4 engines for ALO.

Looking at the pictures and video once more I wonder if anything could have been saved from that wreckage!

[maguetox]

http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/150 ... alia-crash

The engine used by ALO in the first race can not be saved, as it was too damaged along its all supporting components.

20 races to go with 4 engines for ALO.

This rule is soo stupid and I said in another forums. If an PU is scrapped due to a accident like this why the driver needs to pay with a penalty for such an accident. I bet no one wants to be involved in something like that with the purpose of change their PU. I think instead the FIA needs to change this rule and if for one reason or another an accident like this or similar happens the PU needs to be change for safety purposes without a penalty.

[Manoah2u]

http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/150 ... alia-crash

The engine used by ALO in the first race can not be saved, as it was too damaged along its all supporting components.

20 races to go with 4 engines for ALO.

This rule is soo stupid and I said in another forums. If an PU is scrapped due to a accident like this why the driver needs to pay with a penalty for such an accident. I bet no one wants to be involved in something like that with the purpose of change their PU. I think instead the FIA needs to change this rule and if for one reason or another an accident like this or similar happens the PU needs to be change for safety purposes without a penalty.

F1 is a mess recently regarding the rules. the qualifying change is the worst of it.

to be honest, i'd be quite curious what would happen if the drivers and teams would force a change. they hate the rules, and hate the qually change, and offcourse hate the engine usage.
what if they'd force action by simply boycotting?

imagine all the teams unanimously agreeing that when qually starts, they all drive out the cars from the pits, park them on the straight, step out, and all sit by their cars with a huge banner behind them on the reason why they're boycotting.

i know there are consequences but on the other hand, so does sticking to this rediculous system. i'd favour boycotting and getting things done and then when 'they' want to enforce consequences, you defend it with why you did it and frankly, stand against the consequences. like if FIA wants to fine all the teams, just don't pay.

[ME4ME]

http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/150 ... alia-crash

The engine used by ALO in the first race can not be saved, as it was too damaged along its all supporting components.

20 races to go with 4 engines for ALO.

This rule is soo stupid and I said in another forums. If an PU is scrapped due to a accident like this why the driver needs to pay with a penalty for such an accident. I bet no one wants to be involved in something like that with the purpose of change their PU. I think instead the FIA needs to change this rule and if for one reason or another an accident like this or similar happens the PU needs to be change for safety purposes without a penalty.

It's a bit stupid, but what is the alternative?
What if a driver crashes and destroys a heavily used engine – getting a new one for free would aid him an advantage. Also how do you determine if a new engine really is necessary? A team could say we need a new engine after a minor crash, but how do you check if that required at all? The FIA won’t stand a chance, the teams/manufacturers engineers would find a thousand reasons for changing an engine regardless if they were valid reasons or not.

F1 is a mess recently regarding the rules. the qualifying change is the worst of it.

to be honest, i'd be quite curious what would happen if the drivers and teams would force a change. they hate the rules, and hate the qually change, and offcourse hate the engine usage.
what if they'd force action by simply boycotting?

imagine all the teams unanimously agreeing that when qually starts, they all drive out the cars from the pits, park them on the straight, step out, and all sit by their cars with a huge banner behind them on the reason why they're boycotting.

i know there are consequences but on the other hand, so does sticking to this rediculous system. i'd favour boycotting and getting things done and then when 'they' want to enforce consequences, you defend it with why you did it and frankly, stand against the consequences. like if FIA wants to fine all the teams, just don't pay.

That's a pretty terrible and not very grown-up idea. What good would it do to F1? Millions of people tune in, and all that would be send across is a message that our own product is utterly --- until the point that we don't want to do it anymore. If the teams don't care, why should the fans? Viewer loss would probably be massive. Much better to give this qualifying another (last) chance, conclude it's rubbish and fix it for the next round.