Scuderia Ferrari SF16-H

[F1NAC]

One question. In article posted by GPR-A it says that because a new upgraded ICE, turbo can provide more boost but then there is nothing for MGU-H. Are there regulation regarding max. turbo pressure?

[Fer.Fan]

Any info on updates Ferrari brought for this weekend. Really strange to see the forum so dry. Just two posts the entire weekend so far.

I'm really curious to see any updates on the car for this weekend.

You will not see any updates, because they are not bringing any. Specially in aero Ferrari lacks any significant updates.

[giantfan10]

One question. In article posted by GPR-A it says that because a new upgraded ICE, turbo can provide more boost but then there is nothing for MGU-H. Are there regulation regarding max. turbo pressure?

here let me explain it for ya : )
Ferrari is running a larger turbo which suffers from Turbo lag, to combat this Ferrari is using the MGU-H to spool up the turbo up ( basically anti lag) which uses battery power. Amus contends that Ferrari does not have enough battery power left to run the MGU-k at the end of long straights. He contends the easy fix is to just run the turbocharger at a higher RPM(still below the FIA mandated max rpm) which produces produces more electricity via the MGU-H and all is well BUUUT running the turbocharger at a higher rpm is what caused the failure of Kimis Turbo. He sites the new control electronics that both Ferraris recently got as evidence that they are actively managing the situation with additional sensors and so on.
He says that Ferrari have known about this issue since testing and raced with the issue in Australia.
The turbocharger will be upgraded before the Spanish grand prix when Ferrari planned on changing engines anyway.
He says a turbocharger takes 12 weeks to manufacture so that is why Ferrari are waiting until spain.
from his twitter:
1.Tobi Grüner ‏@tgruener 14h14 hours ago
@titanofracing It's a general turbo problem. Need new parts.
2.Henry Kelsall ‏@hennerzkelsall 14h14 hours ago
@tgruener @titanofracing So fixes for that in Spain would mean that is no longer an issue, and matching Merc is possible?
3.Tobi Grüner ‏@tgruener 14h14 hours ago
@hennerzkelsall @titanofracing Correct.

[giantfan10]

Any info on updates Ferrari brought for this weekend. Really strange to see the forum so dry. Just two posts the entire weekend so far.

I'm really curious to see any updates on the car for this weekend.

You will not see any updates, because they are not bringing any. Specially in aero Ferrari lacks any significant updates.

Ferrari has a new floor specifically both corners of the floor above the diffuser has a new element and the barge boards has a new shape.
what would you like them to redesign to make you happy? the car seemed to work pretty well in Australia

[armyk]

One question. In article posted by GPR-A it says that because a new upgraded ICE, turbo can provide more boost but then there is nothing for MGU-H. Are there regulation regarding max. turbo pressure?

here let me explain it for ya : )
Ferrari is running a larger turbo which suffers from Turbo lag, to combat this Ferrari is using the MGU-H to spool up the turbo up ( basically anti lag) which uses battery power. Amus contends that Ferrari does not have enough battery power left to run the MGU-k at the end of long straights. He contends the easy fix is to just run the turbocharger at a higher RPM(still below the FIA mandated max rpm) which produces produces more electricity via the MGU-H and all is well BUUUT running the turbocharger at a higher rpm is what caused the failure of Kimis Turbo. He sites the new control electronics that both Ferraris recently got as evidence that they are actively managing the situation with additional sensors and so on.
He says that Ferrari have known about this issue since testing and raced with the issue in Australia.
The turbocharger will be upgraded before the Spanish grand prix when Ferrari planned on changing engines anyway.
He says a turbocharger takes 12 weeks to manufacture so that is why Ferrari are waiting until spain.
from his twitter:
1.Tobi Grüner ‏@tgruener 14h14 hours ago
@titanofracing It's a general turbo problem. Need new parts.
2.Henry Kelsall ‏@hennerzkelsall 14h14 hours ago
@tgruener @titanofracing So fixes for that in Spain would mean that is no longer an issue, and matching Merc is possible?
3.Tobi Grüner ‏@tgruener 14h14 hours ago
@hennerzkelsall @titanofracing Correct.

Vettel was in Melbourne faster then Kimi, I assume he was runnign same turbo setting as Kimi did. So it was just luck that Vettel didn't have any problem with turbo?
I am still buffled about this situation, I guess we will have to wait for friday to see what really the situation is in Bahrain.

[giantfan10]

One question. In article posted by GPR-A it says that because a new upgraded ICE, turbo can provide more boost but then there is nothing for MGU-H. Are there regulation regarding max. turbo pressure?

here let me explain it for ya : )
Ferrari is running a larger turbo which suffers from Turbo lag, to combat this Ferrari is using the MGU-H to spool up the turbo up ( basically anti lag) which uses battery power. Amus contends that Ferrari does not have enough battery power left to run the MGU-k at the end of long straights. He contends the easy fix is to just run the turbocharger at a higher RPM(still below the FIA mandated max rpm) which produces produces more electricity via the MGU-H and all is well BUUUT running the turbocharger at a higher rpm is what caused the failure of Kimis Turbo. He sites the new control electronics that both Ferraris recently got as evidence that they are actively managing the situation with additional sensors and so on.
He says that Ferrari have known about this issue since testing and raced with the issue in Australia.
The turbocharger will be upgraded before the Spanish grand prix when Ferrari planned on changing engines anyway.
He says a turbocharger takes 12 weeks to manufacture so that is why Ferrari are waiting until spain.
from his twitter:
1.Tobi Grüner ‏@tgruener 14h14 hours ago
@titanofracing It's a general turbo problem. Need new parts.
2.Henry Kelsall ‏@hennerzkelsall 14h14 hours ago
@tgruener @titanofracing So fixes for that in Spain would mean that is no longer an issue, and matching Merc is possible?
3.Tobi Grüner ‏@tgruener 14h14 hours ago
@hennerzkelsall @titanofracing Correct.

Vettel was in Melbourne faster then Kimi, I assume he was runnign same turbo setting as Kimi did. So it was just luck that Vettel didn't have any problem with turbo?
I am still buffled about this situation, I guess we will have to wait for friday to see what really the situation is in Bahrain.

This is specualtion by Amus at this point i have no idea if it is true... he may just be connecting dots that dont exist because Kimis turbo failed.

[giantfan10]

pretty interesting that williams copied the Ferrari nose concept or did Ferrari copy williams from last year and just refined it?

[giantfan10]

One question. In article posted by GPR-A it says that because a new upgraded ICE, turbo can provide more boost but then there is nothing for MGU-H. Are there regulation regarding max. turbo pressure?

here let me explain it for ya : )
Ferrari is running a larger turbo which suffers from Turbo lag, to combat this Ferrari is using the MGU-H to spool up the turbo up ( basically anti lag) which uses battery power. Amus contends that Ferrari does not have enough battery power left to run the MGU-k at the end of long straights. He contends the easy fix is to just run the turbocharger at a higher RPM(still below the FIA mandated max rpm) which produces produces more electricity via the MGU-H and all is well BUUUT running the turbocharger at a higher rpm is what caused the failure of Kimis Turbo. He sites the new control electronics that both Ferraris recently got as evidence that they are actively managing the situation with additional sensors and so on.
He says that Ferrari have known about this issue since testing and raced with the issue in Australia.
The turbocharger will be upgraded before the Spanish grand prix when Ferrari planned on changing engines anyway.
He says a turbocharger takes 12 weeks to manufacture so that is why Ferrari are waiting until spain.
from his twitter:
1.Tobi Grüner ‏@tgruener 14h14 hours ago
@titanofracing It's a general turbo problem. Need new parts.
2.Henry Kelsall ‏@hennerzkelsall 14h14 hours ago
@tgruener @titanofracing So fixes for that in Spain would mean that is no longer an issue, and matching Merc is possible?
3.Tobi Grüner ‏@tgruener 14h14 hours ago
@hennerzkelsall @titanofracing Correct.

Vettel was in Melbourne faster then Kimi, I assume he was runnign same turbo setting as Kimi did. So it was just luck that Vettel didn't have any problem with turbo?
I am still buffled about this situation, I guess we will have to wait for friday to see what really the situation is in Bahrain.

AAAnd the door gets slammed shut on amus' speculation
Gianlu D'Alessandro ‏@Gianludale27 59m59 minutes ago
Ferrari have denied that there are issues with the turbo #BahrainGp #Ferrari[/b]
About what Amus said yesterday, Ferrari said that "there is a development program already planned before the start of the season"

[variante]

pretty interesting that williams copied the Ferrari nose concept or did Ferrari copy williams from last year and just refined it?

WAT?
Maybe you mean: Ferrari copied last year Williams' nose; Williams has just refined the concept, therefore Ferrari is using a year old solution...

[Raleigh]

The thumb nose is a Williams and Red Bull solution which was then copied by other teams during 2015.

Ferrari nose is more similar to last year's Williams (look at the squared off thumb, inwards turn of the pillars and the flat sides to the nose).

New Williams nose is a refinement of the type, absolutely on the limits of minimum length, rounded thumb, higher openings for better airflow and with the lower surface and sides of the nose tapered inwards in similar style to the Mercedes nose.

[Blackout]

So one may say there is two thumb nose styles. The low one (Williams 2015) and the high one with the swept back/inclined vertical pylons (RBR Spain 2015 update)
The new Williams thumb nose is closer to the RBR one. While the Ferrari is between the 2015 Williams and the updated RBR...

[henra]

Maybe you mean: Ferrari copied last year Williams' nose; Williams has just refined the concept, therefore Ferrari is using a year old solution...

Probably somewehere in between. Ferrari nose looks somewhat more refined than last year's Williams nose but WIlliams' new nose looks like a further refinement compared to the Ferrari nose.

[tpe]

No posts for the SV DNS in Bahrain, no speculation, nothing!
The only thing that I can assume, is that Ferrari fans are completely disappointed.

[gavingav1]

No posts for the SV DNS in Bahrain, no speculation, nothing!
The only thing that I can assume, is that Ferrari fans are completely disappointed.

perhaps because you are looking in the technical section, go look in the ferrari team section for that type of chat .

[GPR-A duplicate2]

Analysis - Ferrari’s rear diffuser evolution
Car development is always intense over the opening rounds of the season, as the teams get to know their new machines and the areas of potential performance gain.



In Bahrain Ferrari brought another new update to their rear diffuser. The miniature flaps introduced on the outer rear edges of the diffuser at the end of 2015 (left inset) have undergone a major evolution, with the elements now much larger (main drawing - right inset shows changes from above).

The diffuser’s outer footplate has also grown in size and altered in shape. All these changes work together to help the diffuser produce more downforce. Other revisions to the SF16-H in Sakhir (unseen here) included floor modifications near the vertical turning vanes at the front of the sidepods.