Scuderia Ferrari SF16-H

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Maybe there's some lift and coast involved.

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Sevach wrote:Maybe there's some lift and coast involved.
He wouldn't be on full throttle then, would he?

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good point.

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JamesAllenonF1's take:
"The engine failure for Sebastian Vettel in Bahrain was certainly a painful blow to Ferrari "
"This is not the end of the world, as the teams have five engines for the 2016 season, despite there only being two more races than in 2015, when they had four. So there is some room for manoeuvre."
"By pushing the envelope on the engine, these are the risks that Ferrari decided to take in seeking to bridge the gap to Mercedes from 2015 to this year. But there could be good news on the horizon."
"Perhaps more significant is the development which is coming for the team on the turbo"
"was due for China and has now been pushed back to Spain, while the customer teams will get it for Austria."
This will fix a problem whereby vibrations from the turbo, which is seeking to spin at very high speeds, are causing the unit to overheat. Ferrari has not been able to exploit the full potential of its unit as a result and has had to run more conservatively.
Bahrain however showed that they have made strides on the control electronics side and the speeds they were achieving show that, once the turbo issue is fixed, there will be little to choose between the Ferrari and the Mercedes on power.
F1analistecnica is also reporting that shell will have upgraded fuels and lubricants for Spain

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Possibly he closed DRS early too, but I didn't think the speed would drop that much when DRS closes.
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zac510 wrote:Possibly he closed DRS early too, but I didn't think the speed would drop that much when DRS closes.
Ferrari it looks like chose to run in a lower mode during the race to preserve their engine. my post above explains why. looks like they will run in as low a mode as possible while maintaining 3rd and 4th till their upgrades in spain.doubt he closed the DRS early since there would be no benefit to that.

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zac510 wrote:Possibly he closed DRS early too, but I didn't think the speed would drop that much when DRS closes.
the drs is close in both pictures and noone is in front, so..
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Frafer wrote:
zac510 wrote:Possibly he closed DRS early too, but I didn't think the speed would drop that much when DRS closes.
the drs is close in both pictures and noone is in front, so..
Allthough I agree with what you said, it could be that he already overtooo the guy in front.. :wink:

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Frafer wrote:
Yurasyk wrote:What kind of clipping do you mean? The 8th gear is long enough to reach at least over 360 kmph.
Frafer wrote:It seems that rai had suffered massive clipping in the main straight , it could explain why it was 5 tenth down on pace on sector 1
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3weQIB_XX0I/ ... sfondo.jpg
Look at the speedo, still on full throttle but going slower at the end of the straight
Which lap is this?

Edit. I've looked over the onboards and all ferrari powered cars were doing this almost every lap. I honestly think full throttle bar is lagging a bit and lift & coast is actually happening at the time it's still shown on full throttle. Hard to say..

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Juzh wrote:
Cloud981 wrote: - Sector 2 in qualifying and GPS data showed that Ferrari was in fact fastest car in corners at Bahrain
I guess that's why they were 2/10 slower than mercedes. Overall a lot of things don't add up from this post.
You can also be quicker in the corners and slower in a sector; lots of anecdotes about the McLaren from last year being quick in corners but still several years off the pace ;)

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f1316 wrote: You can also be quicker in the corners and slower in a sector; lots of anecdotes about the McLaren from last year being quick in corners but still several years off the pace ;)
Well you need to accelerate out of every corner, something the Honda Engine wasn't really fond of. :mrgreen:

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Quite. Point being that the lower engine setting could still result in being slower in the sector despite being quicker in the corners.

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Juzh wrote:
Frafer wrote:
Yurasyk wrote:What kind of clipping do you mean? The 8th gear is long enough to reach at least over 360 kmph.
Look at the speedo, still on full throttle but going slower at the end of the straight
Which lap is this?

Edit. I've looked over the onboards and all ferrari powered cars were doing this almost every lap. I honestly think full throttle bar is lagging a bit and lift & coast is actually happening at the time it's still shown on full throttle. Hard to say..
If it was lagging then the speedo should lag also.
I wouldn't think that those visual readings are out of sync in relation to one another.

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Frafer wrote: Look at the speedo, still on full throttle but going slower at the end of the straight
The optimal laptime (in the race, not qualy) would involve dumping all possible power into the MGK in the early and mid part of a straight. Then, just before braking, the MGK lets off or possibly even sucks up energy to replenish the battery.

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