Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software

All that has to do with the power train, gearbox, clutch, fuels and lubricants, etc. Generally the mechanical side of Formula One.
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GoranF1 wrote:
giantfan10 wrote:
GoranF1 wrote: If it is a reliability upgrade no performance can be added.
You must be trolling lol......
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Im going to guess that whatever rule you are getting your point of view from says the upgrades cannot be for performance... so Ferrari installs a more reliable turbocharger that they can run at the higher RPM that they wanted to with the older flawed design....a result of using a turbocharger that they can run at max rpm is more horsepower and more electricity produced... what would u do if you wer the governing body?
I suspect Ferrari showed the FIA that they were not running the old turbocharger at max rpm because of the kimi blowup

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giantfan10 wrote:
GoranF1 wrote:
giantfan10 wrote: You must be trolling lol......
?
Im going to guess that whatever rule you are getting your point of view from says the upgrades cannot be for performance... so Ferrari installs a more reliable turbocharger that they can run at the higher RPM that they wanted to with the older flawed design....a result of using a turbocharger that they can run at max rpm is more horsepower and more electricity produced... what would u do if you wer the governing body?
I suspect Ferrari showed the FIA that they were not running the old turbocharger at max rpm because of the kimi blowup
I think thats wishfull thinking....not only FIA would not allow that, also other manufactures would complain.....it will be a small fix.
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GoranF1 wrote:
giantfan10 wrote:
GoranF1 wrote: ?
Im going to guess that whatever rule you are getting your point of view from says the upgrades cannot be for performance... so Ferrari installs a more reliable turbocharger that they can run at the higher RPM that they wanted to with the older flawed design....a result of using a turbocharger that they can run at max rpm is more horsepower and more electricity produced... what would u do if you wer the governing body?
I suspect Ferrari showed the FIA that they were not running the old turbocharger at max rpm because of the kimi blowup
I think thats wishfull thinking....not only FIA would not allow that, also other manufactures would complain.....it will be a small fix.
Its already been approved and they are changing the turbo and MGU-H token free... sorry to burst your bubble

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Last year in canada mercedes introduced a "reliability" upgrade which also gave them a boost in speed as a result.

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giantfan10 wrote:
GoranF1 wrote:
giantfan10 wrote: Im going to guess that whatever rule you are getting your point of view from says the upgrades cannot be for performance... so Ferrari installs a more reliable turbocharger that they can run at the higher RPM that they wanted to with the older flawed design....a result of using a turbocharger that they can run at max rpm is more horsepower and more electricity produced... what would u do if you wer the governing body?
I suspect Ferrari showed the FIA that they were not running the old turbocharger at max rpm because of the kimi blowup
I think thats wishfull thinking....not only FIA would not allow that, also other manufactures would complain.....it will be a small fix.
Its already been approved and they are changing the turbo and MGU-H token free... sorry to burst your bubble
And reliability upgrade is per definition a performance update.

You upgrade it because you can't run the part at 100%.

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giantfan10 wrote:
GoranF1 wrote:
giantfan10 wrote: Im going to guess that whatever rule you are getting your point of view from says the upgrades cannot be for performance... so Ferrari installs a more reliable turbocharger that they can run at the higher RPM that they wanted to with the older flawed design....a result of using a turbocharger that they can run at max rpm is more horsepower and more electricity produced... what would u do if you wer the governing body?
I suspect Ferrari showed the FIA that they were not running the old turbocharger at max rpm because of the kimi blowup
I think thats wishfull thinking....not only FIA would not allow that, also other manufactures would complain.....it will be a small fix.
Its already been approved and they are changing the turbo and MGU-H token free... sorry to burst your bubble
Looking at Ferrari's upgrades in the last 8-9 years it will most likely mean a step or two backwards.....sorry to burst your bubble. :D
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Juzh wrote:Last year in canada mercedes introduced a "reliability" upgrade which also gave them a boost in speed as a result.
Sorry, but this year there are the French coming up - not the Italians. - You will see next weekend!!

with kind regards

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GoranF1 wrote:
giantfan10 wrote:
GoranF1 wrote: I think thats wishfull thinking....not only FIA would not allow that, also other manufactures would complain.....it will be a small fix.
Its already been approved and they are changing the turbo and MGU-H token free... sorry to burst your bubble
Looking at Ferrari's upgrades in the last 8-9 years it will most likely mean a step or two backwards.....sorry to burst your bubble. :D
I could mention mclaren and their mediocrity but why bother?? Lol

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giantfan10 wrote:
GoranF1 wrote:
giantfan10 wrote: Its already been approved and they are changing the turbo and MGU-H token free... sorry to burst your bubble
Looking at Ferrari's upgrades in the last 8-9 years it will most likely mean a step or two backwards.....sorry to burst your bubble. :D
I could mention mclaren and their mediocrity but why bother?? Lol
You could but it would be off topic....this is a thread about Ferrari engine backward steps not Mclaren.
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GoranF1 wrote:
giantfan10 wrote:
GoranF1 wrote: Looking at Ferrari's upgrades in the last 8-9 years it will most likely mean a step or two backwards.....sorry to burst your bubble. :D
I could mention mclaren and their mediocrity but why bother?? Lol
You could but it would be off topic....this is a thread about Ferrari engine backward steps not Mclaren.
This is a thread about Ferraris engine backward steps? Got to say, first time hearing it.

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giantfan10 wrote:
GoranF1 wrote:
giantfan10 wrote: Im going to guess that whatever rule you are getting your point of view from says the upgrades cannot be for performance... so Ferrari installs a more reliable turbocharger that they can run at the higher RPM that they wanted to with the older flawed design....a result of using a turbocharger that they can run at max rpm is more horsepower and more electricity produced... what would u do if you wer the governing body?
I suspect Ferrari showed the FIA that they were not running the old turbocharger at max rpm because of the kimi blowup
I think thats wishfull thinking....not only FIA would not allow that, also other manufactures would complain.....it will be a small fix.
Its already been approved and they are changing the turbo and MGU-H token free... sorry to burst your bubble
Do you have a link to that news. I haven't seen that information on any of the F1 websites I visit.

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Ferrari TC in Canada will not bring any more power in Q mode that what Ferrari already have(the point of FIA reliabilty updates)...but Ferrari may now be able to use it more in race modes.

EDIT:
https://twitter.com/f1talks/status/740119801415225344
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Distinctive whistle sound from an onboard.

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It's the turbine, how well it harvests. They won't have to spend as much time harvesting down the straight.
Honda!

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GoranF1 wrote:Ferrari TC in Canada will not bring any more power in Q mode that what Ferrari already have(the point of FIA reliabilty updates)...but Ferrari may now be able to use it more in race modes.

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https://twitter.com/f1talks/status/740119801415225344
What youre saying doesnt make sense...
The turbo now spinning at max RPM and a new compressor will provide more power regardless of it its qualifying or in the race....lower RPM = less boost and the previous turbo was running at less than max rpm to preserve it..im not saying there will be some earth shattering improvement but there should be improvement.