2016 McLaren F1 Team - Honda

[Webber2011]

Wazari was never "quite free" with information. Just stating the obvious and making populist comments like
"My nephew informed me that every one is working very hard to overcome the problem" really? Who would have guessed.

He never worked for Honda during the 80's and was not recalled.
What benefit would that serve? The technology is miles apart?

That's nothing but your personal opinion with absolutely no facts to back it up.

Do you honestly think the guy would be meeting with Forum Members at Silverstone if he was a fraud ?
If he is a fraudster, then he's a bloody good one if he's prepared to carry on his charade face to face.

There's even Members here that have figured out who he really is, me included.
I've spoken to him at length by pm, I have his real name, and email, and nothing suggests to me that he's anything other than genuine.

I look forward to the day when he might have the chance to reveal it to you.

[Jef Patat]

So the fact that he is genuine makes that he deserves credit for not saying anything special at all? My post was not about wazari but about the content, if you didn't get that read it again. Someone should start a wazari fanboyism thread where all you (non)believers can have some fun. (BTW, which forum members have confirmed they met him, and not the other way round, I mean not wazari stating he met someone?)

[kasio]

So the fact that he is genuine makes that he deserves credit for not saying anything special at all? My post was not about wazari but about the content, if you didn't get that read it again. Someone should start a wazari fanboyism thread where all you (non)believers can have some fun. (BTW, which forum members have confirmed they met him, and not the other way round, I mean not wazari stating he met someone?)

do you think attacking people what we want here to read? we everybody have our own opinion about different matters, but we come here to read bits an pieces of other people thoughts about car and not about politics or their look. information here is like news, you can approve it or not or tell your news, but don't attack people! it makes this thread unpleasant.

[Nuvolari]

Even with a boat anchor of a PU, I was surprised to find the MP4/30 was quicker than the MP4/29 around Monaco. This was the only track the MP4/30 was quicker than MP4/29 and it shows that the MP4/30 had good potential for a chassis in its 1st year of development. But as you say, it is clear that the deficit in 2016 is due to more than just the PU, at least in qualifying.

Thanks for the table and the explanation. The table only shows he delta relative to something else. We do not see the actual time per km so where you state that in Monaco the MP4/30 was quicker than the MP4/29 we can't see that. I would like to see the actual times per km as well. Could you post that?

As Andres125sx says, it's there in the 2014->2015 improvement column. Actual lap time for 2014 is 1:17.555. In 2015, they did a 1:17:093.

[diffuser]

Way to go Idaho!

I agree, he was commenting on the fanboyz reaction, Not Ws comments.

[Webber2011]

So the fact that he is genuine makes that he deserves credit for not saying anything special at all? My post was not about wazari but about the content, if you didn't get that read it again. Someone should start a wazari fanboyism thread where all you (non)believers can have some fun. (BTW, which forum members have confirmed they met him, and not the other way round, I mean not wazari stating he met someone?)

Ok I'll break it down to make it a bit easier for you understand.

First of all I have never claimed Wazari to have met anyone on the Forum, so don't try and twist my words to suit your agenda.
I did claim however that people have worked out who He is, (real name etc, which He was quite prepared to share with me by pm ), and by doing that can confirm He did actually work for Honda, and does again now.
I also claimed that if He was some sort of Fraudster, He's a bloody brave one to organise a meet up at Silverstone with Forum Members.
That I think will be a turning point in this argument.

Secondly, I can't quite understand your obsession with up votes ?
Look at you mate, you're up to 19 !
Keep going you good thing !
I will tell you though that you won't be getting many for your recent posts, so maybe chill out a bit.
Then you can get to 20 and start down voting me

Thirdly, do you think Wazari can post confidential information on a public Forum ?
I've spoken to Him in a non public way, and He's quite prepared to share His knowledge and some more juicier tit bits, but still can't divulge anything that would jeopardise His situation.
If you really expect Him to break His contract just to please someone like you, on a public Forum, then you probably won't understand anything I'm trying to explain so maybe this whole conversation is pointless ?

I'll not comment on it again, until after Silverstone because even though I think it does relate to the Honda F1 Team, I feel we are maybe hijacking and dragging the thread off topic a bit.

Chat to you after Silverstone

[Thunder]

some more juicier tit bits

So that's why everyone was flooding him with PM's?

Sorry but that made me giggle. I think it should read tidbits.

[Jef Patat]

Oh Thunders, you and your dirty mind, a joy forever

[Webber2011]

some more juicier tit bits

So that's why everyone was flooding him with PM's?

Sorry but that made me giggle. I think it should read tidbits.

Hahahahaha
You're exactly right.

I must have had tits on my mind

[Andres125sx]

So the fact that he is genuine makes that he deserves credit for not saying anything special at all?

That´s debatable, but even if true, yes he deserve credit because when talking about F1 teams and specially projects on the way, everything you can read is just speculation due to the secrecy around, so we all prefer speculation or vague replies from an insider to any other statement from member like you or myself who don´t have any inside info.

In other words, his credibility is light years ahead from any other member when talking about McHonda project, and that´s a big statement as F1T is the most reliable source I´ve ever found in internet

[miguelalvesreis]

...F1T is the most reliable source I´ve ever found in internet

100% agree on that. =D> =D> =D>

[Sayeman]

Jef Patat is just jealous cause Wazari's getting all the upvotes.
Move along, nothing to see here.

[Jef Patat]

So, ..., finally some updates on the PU side, new fuel and new turbo:
http://www.motorsport.com/all/article/?id=747023
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/honda ... da-751931/

Let's hope the reliability doesn't get lost and maybe with some luck a double point finish again.

[Chene_Mostert]

So, ..., finally some updates on the PU side, new fuel and new turbo:
http://www.motorsport.com/all/article/?id=747023
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/honda ... da-751931/

Let's hope the reliability doesn't get lost and maybe with some luck a double point finish again.

"My only comment is don't pay too much value to articles put out by journalists. Unless they are direct quotes from Hasegawa-san or Nakamura-san, there is probably much speculation and little else in these articles."

[Webber2011]

So, ..., finally some updates on the PU side, new fuel and new turbo:
http://www.motorsport.com/all/article/?id=747023
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/honda ... da-751931/

A comment in that first article shows just how minimal the gains they spend huge amount of money on are

"The new fuel for Montreal represents about a 1 percent power increase."
"In round numbers, that's around 5kW, or about a tenth of a second, depending on what circuit you are on."

I know a tenth of a second could be a few places in Quali, and in Canada it's 7 seconds over the race distance, but in Honda's position it's such a small gain.

I've always found it amazing how much goes into squeezing that last bit of performance out of these cars.