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Following the demotion of Ron Dennis as the company's chief, McLaren Technology Group has announced that Zak Brown has accepted the position of Executive Director. The former McLaren F1 driver is set to start work in December.
I see what are u trying to do here, but im still not buying it. If the power unit would be the main reason for their results, than they would not be overtaken on the straights and having problems with overtaking others like a Sauber today. Powerplant is much better than it was, but it still lacks few ten horses. The main reason today for stronger defensive and ofensive pace was definetly the safety car which enabled fuel saving. The car itself is able to turn much sharper than others and exits corners nicely as well.techman wrote:thats true the weak link in this team is the chassis. that why they struggle in monaco for pace but the race pace in austria was the best shown all this year and in a power circuit, obviously eric B is trying to save his job by boosting about how good the chassis is and we all know what really happened in monaco in terms of pace, probably one of the worst in terms of pace, just lucky with rain , fantastic pitstop by mclaren and other misfortune to end up with points. i am expecting more points on upcoming power circuits to come.A good result for the team, the car looks competitive and decent pace. Could the new tyre pressure regulations plays in McL favor?
One thing that 'worries" me are the declarations of the team. When they said the race is going to be tough like today they made a really decent race, on the contrary, like Monaco, suppously that was going to be "the race" and they had a mediocre result. Looks like they are not sure what they have in their hands.
Anyway.... the team is improving and more.good things are on our way.
cant wait for silvestone gp
If there would be raining i am quite sure Button would be able to fight for a podium finish.GoranF1 wrote:The most amazing thing was first few laps where Hamilton did not lap more than few tents faster than Button....and whitout the fake drs thing Kimi would not be able to do ---...
Aren't they both the same thing?godlameroso wrote:Does anyone know if changing the battery, not the battery pack costs tokens?
I agree about the PU. It's common knowledge that Honda have work to do, it's also been acknowledged that they dont that that ignition chamber thing and I'm sure that's what they are working on next.proteus wrote:I see what are u trying to do here, but im still not buying it. If the power unit would be the main reason for their results, than they would not be overtaken on the straights and having problems with overtaking others like a Sauber today. Powerplant is much better than it was, but it still lacks few ten horses. The main reason today for stronger defensive and ofensive pace was definetly the safety car which enabled fuel saving. The car itself is able to turn much sharper than others and exits corners nicely as well.techman wrote:thats true the weak link in this team is the chassis. that why they struggle in monaco for pace but the race pace in austria was the best shown all this year and in a power circuit, obviously eric B is trying to save his job by boosting about how good the chassis is and we all know what really happened in monaco in terms of pace, probably one of the worst in terms of pace, just lucky with rain , fantastic pitstop by mclaren and other misfortune to end up with points. i am expecting more points on upcoming power circuits to come.A good result for the team, the car looks competitive and decent pace. Could the new tyre pressure regulations plays in McL favor?
One thing that 'worries" me are the declarations of the team. When they said the race is going to be tough like today they made a really decent race, on the contrary, like Monaco, suppously that was going to be "the race" and they had a mediocre result. Looks like they are not sure what they have in their hands.
Anyway.... the team is improving and more.good things are on our way.
cant wait for silvestone gp
Underline is that Honda needs to come up with atleast 50 more horsepower (lastable horsepower, which will not drain fuel so quickly) to make the whole package capable to fight for podiums. If anything, they have one of the best launch controls on the grid.
techman wrote:Mclaren were running extreme downforce and had an extra days of testing in barcelona to prepare for monaco, mclaren even brought a double monkey wing and other bits to add downforce because it does not hurt to add downforce because its a circuit when power is the least dependant and that why Eric was predicting a podium in monaco before the race. however we all saw how much bad the pace was. only luck gave them the points, i have explained in my earlier posts.Why are you so sure Monaco showed the chassis's potential? when Mclaren specifically stated they wouldn't compromise the low drag philosophy forced by the Honda and therefore suffered at Monaco much more than the teams with other power units.
monaco is a circuit where you can bolt on donwforce even if you have a average engine but still be quick providing you have a well balanced chassis, this include, suspension, aero, brakes traction etc. Redbull is a perfect example.
Just look at williams, last year they struggle in monaco and this year we heard rob smedly saying they are going for extreme downforce setup but still there pace in monaco was horrible even with a MERCEDES engine, As you can see it not about adding extreme downforce but getting the chassis well balanced, which include suspension, aero, brakes, traction etc. Mclaren are in the same boat, this car is not balanced , that why drivers was complaining in practice that car is understeering and oversteering.
I hope mclaren improves fast so we can see them in the top. unfortunately for honda, there is no comparison unlike Renault where have a bench mark chassis and that is redbull but just look where renault f1 team are. They are over a second slower than redbull. all the gain throughs a good efficient chassis like redbull.
techman wrote:thats true the weak link in this team is the chassis. that why they struggle in monaco for pace but the race pace in austria was the best shown all this year and in a power circuit, obviously eric B is trying to save his job by boosting about how good the chassis is and we all know what really happened in monaco in terms of pace, probably one of the worst in terms of pace, just lucky with rain , fantastic pitstop by mclaren and other misfortune to end up with points. i am expecting more points on upcoming power circuits to come.A good result for the team, the car looks competitive and decent pace. Could the new tyre pressure regulations plays in McL favor?
One thing that 'worries" me are the declarations of the team. When they said the race is going to be tough like today they made a really decent race, on the contrary, like Monaco, suppously that was going to be "the race" and they had a mediocre result. Looks like they are not sure what they have in their hands.
Anyway.... the team is improving and more.good things are on our way.
cant wait for silvestone gp
Monaco showed that they had troubles switching the tyres on, same thing happened to Red Bull in Baku.techman wrote:monaco showed the real weakness is the deficit from the chasis, it was also mentioned by other drivers like massa after observing them in monaco. next year we will find the power index of these manufacturers when FIA starts the engine equalization process and good that it will expose some overated chassis.
iam happy for mclaren hopefully more points in silverstone.
If Honda had a major problem with fuel consumption then Mclaren would struggle the most at the start of the GP and be on the pace by the end because every race the Mclaren would be brimmed while the other teams would not need to take a full tank.CjC wrote: I agree about the PU. It's common knowledge that Honda have work to do, it's also been acknowledged that they dont that that ignition chamber thing and I'm sure that's what they are working on next.
For me, you could see that Button would sit behind the Sauber of Nasr in normal conditions but then when the team said to all out attack ie. Turn the PU up and not to worry about fuel usage he breezed past the Sauber.
Honda and Mclarens major weakness of a weekend is fuel usage unfortunately and in the incremental steps Honda take, fuel consumption will be next in the list to tick off before out and out power, this is after they rectified last seasons major weakness- reliability.
Honda ARE getting there and WILL get there it just takes time.
In 2018 it will be a peach of a motor.