Concord to be grounded?

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Concord to be grounded?

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Yes, the agreement

one that has to do with F1. As if there was a doubt. Anyway, in roughly six weeks, if nothing is done, the sport will have no "constitution". Frankly it seems like a bit of a mess. A great big bit of a mess, really. If it was me, I'd propably attempt rewriting the whole thing, but unless someone has something ready, that seems increasingly unlikely. Yet obviously everyone is investing a lot of resources into next season and beyond, without a framework with which they'd know for certain to what proportions any proceeds are returned to the teams according to their sporting success, and so on. Seems a bit irresponsible. How can this be?

Six weeks to go - link, grandprix.com

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everyone signed in japan

hope this helps

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As I understand it the problem with the new concord agreement is to do with costumer teams and if they are eligible to score constructors points but I could be wrong

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Well it looks official david richards has said Prodrive will not be in the 08 season.
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Good article indeed.

In addition to that, the below proves how rediculous the customer idea can go (even bofore its proper implementation) :roll:

SAF1 are testing Honda cars with Honda drivers - autosport.com

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Does anyone remember years ago there were talkings about making 3 car teams???

Maybe that could solve the problem (no customer cars, more than 20 cars in the grid)
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Problem?
Belatti wrote:no customer cars, more than 20 cars in the grid
... and less fight for points (b'cos it's betwen team mates) :roll: Remember USGP'07 Ham-Nando, Massa-Kimi? They were close, but avoided 'open fight'.
Now that would bring problems! The only problem I see now, is that F1 should work out some compromise to let SAF1 and STR stay in F1 with the current Concorde prolonged (which is most likely to happen) and w/o allowing customer teams in future.
I'd just put them (STR and SAF1) into a position to develop their 2007 (customer) cars independantly from so called 'Red Bull Technilogies' and Honda respectively.

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I don't see any problem just say the customer teams may only run year old chassis as is the presant case with SAF1.

Or there is the other option where third party manufactures like Dellara and Lola where to supply chassis as they did to teams uptil around 1993 just a thought

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whiplash wrote:... Or there is the other option where third party manufactures like Dellara and Lola where to supply chassis as they did to teams uptil around 1993 just a thought
Lola and Dallara supplied chassis to 1 team each, not 2 nor 4. That´s not a customer chassis from a point of view.

Do you think having 3 cars per team and only 8 or 9 teams would make F1 more cost effective? (If budgets where arround 200m and sponsors would have 3 cars to expose their brands)

Returning to this threads topic... still no agreement :roll:
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Some further

reading for those wondering what is going on. I feel a bit exasperated reading about this stuff, right after the spygate affair. One thing's for sure though: A replacement for the Concorde agreement wouldn't be held up if no-one benefited from it. Do the math.

F1: Teams Prepare for FIA Costs Showdown, link
F1: No Agreement in Paris Costs Meeting?, link
The Winds of Change?, link

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good reading that
but as its the concord agreement its mostly supposition

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns19970.html

another article on the same issue , but with some light at the end
of the tunnel, lets just hope its not an oncoming train
..?