Facts Only wrote:I'm assuming that it either wont be a "F1" power unit or the car will be a Ferrar FXX style factiry run toy. Why? Well tafter all the secrecy around the current F1 PU's they aren't going to stick one in a car on sale to the general (albeit very rich) public.
I suspect when they say "F1 Drivetrain" what they mean a 1.6l V6 Turbo with and MGUK and MGUH but with exactly zero actual F1 parts on it. Without the fuel flow limitations and the endless quest for weight saving mandated by F1 they will be able to make the same power but with a much longer lifespan and a more usueable and durable drive.
To quote Thomas Weber
I am very excited to officially confirm: our next big thing at AMG is already in the pipeline. We are going to create an AMG performance hybrid featuring our Formula 1 drivetrain technology. Under the lead of AMG, our performance companies will join forces and create the most efficient and, at the same time, the best-performing and most spectacular AMG of all time; some might even call it a hypercar. But no matter what you call it, it will definitely show how we will take our performance brand into the future with extremely efficient and intelligent drivetrain technology. Of course, there will be no compromises in terms of the emotional appeal of this car.
Now alot of this is the usual PR gumph, but officials are also quoted as saying...
AMG's hypercar will be powered by the ‘entire current Formula 1 powertrain,’
Confirming a 2016 F1 spec 1.6 litre V6 with MGU-K and MGU-H systems.
I would add that it won't be a straight lift out of a W07 straight into this monster.... there will be inevitable compromises. But not as much as some have feared.
Toby Moers alludes to it:
Our F1 engine is far more durable than many people expect and if you look at the load it must take in an F1 race compared to how it’s likely to be used in a street-legal machine, you can see it’s going to have a lot less work to do
I'd imagine the ICE part of the engine to have different software, and a lower rev limit. With the Hybrid part being redeveloped using the same methodology of the F1 car's system to compensate for differing targets.
And this is the whole issue surrounding build.
Targets.
You cannot design an F1 engined car for the road, because F1 and road are entities with differing targets. By default, designing and F1 engined car for the road will lead to compromise.
F1 cars do not do 10-30 lap blasts, and then stored for 6 months until the next session.
Equally track day cars or even Hypercars are not used for 600km's every 2 weeks.
To put into perspective, Bugatti Hypercars on the market rarely have more than a few thousand miles on them when they are put up for sale.
A rare EB110 has 1000 miles on it after 14 years, making 71 miles on average each year.
A Veyron has 2200 miles after 8 years, making 275miles average per annum.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/search/used ... earch/true
If we relay this into other £1 million plus cars, he Ferrari Enzo average is about 5,000 miles on an average 12 year old car.
Or roughly 400 miles a year.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/search/used ... new%2Cused
The F40 has an average of 400 miles P/A over the last 24 years!
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/search/used ... new%2Cused
If we look at the average designated lifespan of a Merc V6 Turbo, it's about 5 venues, or 3000kms. In testing, Mercedes did 6121kms on a single engine without issues.
http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472/ ... on-testing
If we can assume they were using a different engine mode to get data on tyres etc, in a more highly strung environment to the usual track day or commute(winter testing), but still bagging some very quick times, then it's entirely plausible that this engine can be made roadworthy with some necessary modifications.. Especially when you consider that Moers suggest the engine will be doing a lot less work than in F1 applications.
So while we know little to nothing, I cannot disagree. But it's food for thought, and a plausible idea for this car to have near as dammit F1 engine humming in the back.
