I think this is the point. They have spoiled Kvyat with a much too early promotion and Ves is showing as well, that some time in a youth series would have helped.GPR-A wrote:Based on what I heard on Sky F1, it was not so exciting performance by Gasly in the just concluded tests that made the Red Bull management feel that he is not ready yet to for F1 and have gone ahead with retaining Kvyat.Vasconia wrote:During the last races Kvyat´s peformance has been much better. I am sure that TR has taken into account this when they have confirmed the Russian. They are not so stupid to bu fooled by a hypothetical negociation between Kvyat and FI.iotar__ wrote:Kvyat celebrated his F1 career extension with trademark performance: bad Q, bad start, collision, penalty and last but not least race pace. I'm sorry I couldn't help myself but that's reality not I like blue colour he should be in team X.
Noticed how they tried the old trick of making up interest through helpful media (Force India link) seconds before keeping him?
May be they are worried about repeating the mistakes of pushing Kvyat too soon in to F1 and into Red Bull Senior team. The question is, what is Gasly going to do next year. Will he become redundant if some other young kid rises?
The art of taking sentences out of context and make headlines that dont have anything in common with the reality.ChrisDanger wrote:Reporters are full of crap. He was asked by a "reporter" about possibly replacing Kvyat mid-season, to which he responded favourably, of course, albeit surprised. This was then twisted into him claiming that he would replace Kvyat. Which is totally not what happened. The media like to make things up then report them as truth. Don't perpetuate the lie.Manoah2u wrote:At the same time, it's reported that Gasly did not get on the best side of the RB camp by claiming he'd be getting Kvyat's TR seat.
For once I agree with you. Is Jesus coming tonight?iotar__ wrote:Kvyat celebrated his F1 career extension with trademark performance: bad Q, bad start, collision, penalty and last but not least race pace. I'm sorry I couldn't help myself but that's reality not I like blue colour he should be in team X.
Noticed how they tried the old trick of making up interest through helpful media (Force India link) seconds before keeping him?
That's OK I prefer reality as a reference point. Let's start with Rosberg when three years ago it was so obvious it would be like Button. Only if you ignored speed and other things.PlatinumZealot wrote:For once I agree with you. Is Jesus coming tonight?iotar__ wrote:Kvyat celebrated his F1 career extension with trademark performance: bad Q, bad start, collision, penalty and last but not least race pace. I'm sorry I couldn't help myself but that's reality not I like blue colour he should be in team X.
Noticed how they tried the old trick of making up interest through helpful media (Force India link) seconds before keeping him?
After Sirotkins rather poor performance this year that will only happen if he comes with some rather large purses of Russian gold.Manoah2u wrote:Watch Kvyat drive up until Sochi 2017 then get dumped in favour of Gasly, then see Sirotkin get a Sauber drive in 2018 and no more Kvyat.
I didn't watch a lot of GP2 but true Sirotkin didn't really deserve F1 seat but neither did/does Nasr and he is still here and a candidate for every team. Although Kvyat stays I wouldn't worry about Russian gold too much since at the moment it's clearly inferior to:Sniffit wrote:After Sirotkins rather poor performance this year that will only happen if he comes with some rather large purses of Russian gold.Manoah2u wrote:Watch Kvyat drive up until Sochi 2017 then get dumped in favour of Gasly, then see Sirotkin get a Sauber drive in 2018 and no more Kvyat.
- 2/3 don't make sense to me from performance point of view but whatever,edu2703 wrote:My sources in Manor says Antonio Giovinazzi probably will make his F1 debut with Manor next year. Pascal Werhlein probably will sign with Haas.
My sources at Force India says Felipe Nasr is only waiting a 'OK' from his sponsors to sign the contract with the team. The official announcement will be next week.
This sounds crazy to me. All Wehrlein needs to do is to keep his head down and stay in the Merc family. Like this he will get a Merc Works team seat in 2018 or 2019.edu2703 wrote:My source didn't give me many details. If Werhlein leaves, which can happen because there are negotiations between him and Haas, Giovinazzi will get the seat. Ocon will stay.
To be quite honest I think that you are a bit unfair, not just to Nasr and Sirotkin but to alot of other drivers. If you get to F1 these days you are a pretty damned good driver, sure we make fun of drivers like Maldonado and so but that doesn't take from them that they are among the best there is for track racing. If we just wanted the absolute best, irrespective of any sponsorship money half the teams would have to quit, just because you join a smaller team and gets economic backing it doesn't mean that it's undeserved.iotar__ wrote:I didn't watch a lot of GP2 but true Sirotkin didn't really deserve F1 seat but neither did/does Nasr and he is still here and a candidate for every team.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... r-for-2017Fernley has stated, though, the team's financial situation is strong enough that a driver with considerable sponsorship is not a necessity.
"You are never going to turn away talent that has support with it," added Fernley.
"But at the end of the day, Nico hasn't brought money in, so it's not going to make a difference to us for our plans for next year.
"It's a clean sheet of paper and Vijay will look at each person on merit."