Fuel and lubricants situation for 2017

[kooleracer]

We have all heard the speculation about new fuel technical/commercial partnerships in F1.

Who will be using what in 2017:

Mercedes: 2016 Petronas / 2017 Petronas

Williams: 2016 Petronas (Petrobras commercial partner) / Petrobras will leave after 2016. 2017, Williams will still use Petronas

Force India: 2016 Petronas / 2017 Petronas

Manor F1: 2016 Petronas / 2017 Petronas

Ferrari: 2016 Shell / 2017 Shell

HaasF1: 2016 Shell / 2017 Shell

Sauber: 2016 Shell / 2017 Shell

Toro Rosso: 2016 Shell (CEPSA commercial partner) / 2017 ? ExxonMobil? BP?

Renault: 2016 Total / 2017 BP, Total leaving new CEO decreased motorsport budget and not a fan of "old-school" marketing.

McLaren: 2016 Exxon (Mobil1) / 2017 speculation of commercial partnership with BP probably under their Castrol branding. Castrol Honda already a sublime partnership in the past in WRC. Nowadays Castrol and Honda have a tie up in World Superbike and WTCC. The question is what fuel will McLaren be running in 2017?

Red Bull: 2016 Total / 2017 Exxon (Mobil1/Esso)

Cyril Abiteboul pointed out in the media that BP Castrol are contracting McLaren as a commercial partner no fuel or lubricants deal. As BP are seeking for a Global tie-up wit Renault just like Petronas has with Mercedes.

So, Renault going with BP
Redbull going with Exxon
McLaren will go for a commercial deal with Castrol (BP).

Who will supply McLaren with fuel and lubricants in 2017?
Exxon and BP will spend millions to achieve to same goal, with the same engine or will they pool R&D together?

[RedNEO]

I don't know where you're getting your information from but BP will have a technical partnership with McLaren developing fuel and lubricants for them. The commercial partnership is with Renault using fuels in there road cars as well as providing them with fuel/lubricants in f1. Total is trying to stop that but the BP/McLaren deal is already done.

[kooleracer]

I don't know where you're getting your information from but BP will have a technical partnership with McLaren developing fuel and lubricants for them. The commercial partnership is with Renault using fuels in there road cars as well as providing them with fuel/lubricants in f1. Total is trying to stop that but the BP/McLaren deal is already done.

So BP will developing fuel for McLaren-Honda and RenaultF1?

[RedNEO]

I don't know where you're getting your information from but BP will have a technical partnership with McLaren developing fuel and lubricants for them. The commercial partnership is with Renault using fuels in there road cars as well as providing them with fuel/lubricants in f1. Total is trying to stop that but the BP/McLaren deal is already done.

So BP will developing fuel for McLaren-Honda and RenaultF1?

That's what it looks like. I'm not sure how exactly this is a good deal for McLaren as Renault seem like the bigger focus, at least commercially. BP developing two fuels for two different engines is not something anyone was expecting.

[Scuderia1967]

I don't know where you're getting your information from but BP will have a technical partnership with McLaren developing fuel and lubricants for them. The commercial partnership is with Renault using fuels in there road cars as well as providing them with fuel/lubricants in f1. Total is trying to stop that but the BP/McLaren deal is already done.

So BP will developing fuel for McLaren-Honda and RenaultF1?

Total is leaving F1, as for BP it's the other way round: technical partnership AND sponsorship deal with Renault, simple supplier for McLaren-Honda

[kooleracer]

I don't know where you're getting your information from but BP will have a technical partnership with McLaren developing fuel and lubricants for them. The commercial partnership is with Renault using fuels in there road cars as well as providing them with fuel/lubricants in f1. Total is trying to stop that but the BP/McLaren deal is already done.

So BP will developing fuel for McLaren-Honda and RenaultF1?

Total is leaving F1, as for BP it's the other way round: technical partnership AND sponsorship deal with Renault, simple supplier for McLaren-Honda

BP wil have a simple supply deal for McLaren-Honda? What do yo mean by simple? Fuel has become and lubricants have come very important and are a source for significant performance gain? What will be different between the Renault and McLaren deal pure from F1 perspective?

[RedNEO]

So BP will developing fuel for McLaren-Honda and RenaultF1?

Total is leaving F1, as for BP it's the other way round: technical partnership AND sponsorship deal with Renault, simple supplier for McLaren-Honda

BP wil have a simple supply deal for McLaren-Honda? What do yo mean by simple? Fuel has become and lubricants have come very important and are a source for significant performance gain? What will be different between the Renault and McLaren deal pure from F1 perspective?

True, It's not simple. Its exactly the same deal Renault has minus the commercial part. It's a bit surprising BP going for two engine providers. They obviously don't want to put all there eggs in the Renault basket since McLaren is currently the stronger of the two.

[Scuderia1967]

Total is leaving F1, as for BP it's the other way round: technical partnership AND sponsorship deal with Renault, simple supplier for McLaren-Honda

BP wil have a simple supply deal for McLaren-Honda? What do yo mean by simple? Fuel has become and lubricants have come very important and are a source for significant performance gain? What will be different between the Renault and McLaren deal pure from F1 perspective?

True, It's not simple. Its exactly the same deal Renault has minus the commercial part. It's a bit surprising BP going for two engine providers. They obviously don't want to put all there eggs in the Renault basket since McLaren is currently the stronger of the two.

I meant "simple" as in "it's not a big sponsorship deal/partnership as with Renault". So it's not "exactly the same deal"

[Pierce89]

Is any of this fuel/lubrication speculation actually confirmed?

[Thunder]

Not yet, except ExxonMobil moving to RedBull.