2017 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team - Ferrari

[Webber2011]

Well... the amount of burocracy and regulations, laws, local laws here in Italy is absurdly high and it is well known that this hampers foreign investments here (to oversimplify: why invest where you don't know how much time you'll take to have all the papers done and which papers are needed?).

It is also possible that Italian working culture, based on many small and medium small enterprises, where roles are not well defined and one employee has to do different tasks has an impact on bigger company: if you professionally grow up in a "unregulated" working ambient I can imagine that it might be hard to perform at 100% when you switch to a place of 1000+ workers where everything HAS to be strictly regulated. I see some small changes in the working culture, at least here in northern Italy where I live, but changes are slow and I guess it is also related to old workers retiring and younger people entering in the market and filling command positions.

I remember a Niki Lauda interview, that I can't find it now, that said that he was a little worried (ok he and Toto are always worried in interviews...) about Vettel joining Ferrari because he could bring some "german approach" to the italian working culture... I guess he wasn't totally off and sometimes we need someone that is a little more "schematic" to prevent our "italian organized chaos" to go totally out of control. We italians sometimes say that "...but we are flexible" but, while sometimes it is true, I suspect that sometimes it is a statement used to cover our chronic disorganization.

Just my two cents.

Well thanks for your honest reply mate.
I get the feeling that it's a bit of chaos, thrown in with a different mind set, that keeps things going over there


I also get the feeling that's probably sometimes a bad thing when it comes to organising an engine department, or a F1 Team that has hundreds of people

[Cold Fussion]

Is it really an Italian cultural thing or a Ferrari cultural thing. Don't forget that the same country that brought the world Red Bull Technology also brought the world British Leyland.

[Sevach]

Looking ahead a bit, i think Ferrari can build a good car for 2017.
2016 was more operational issues than it was engineering and performance. They had really good pace at some points in 2016, but operations deficiencies were responsible for missed opportunities, development direction and frequency, and also driver deliverables.
The 2016 car didn't have any obvious weakness. The biggest weakness of the car was that it was difficult drive and to setup to get pace out of it.
The car was ok overall so i think Ferrari can do a much better job for 2017 on the technical front. They can build a top car next year; it's not impossible for them to do it, and i don't think it's any harder for them than it is mercedes or redbull. What they need to do is improve operations and HR management. Get the people to work in the right way, and also restructure their policies and culture to get what we see in redbull and mercedes. They seem too cognisant of conservatism and maintaining old cultures in the workplace; they aren't very progressive thinking.

I never can tell with Ferrari, in 2015 they had a car that was easy to drive, good on it's tires and steadily improved over the year, it genuinely looked like they were on their way up.

In 2016 they had a car that the team didn't fully understand it's operating window (often looking awesome in a cooler FP3 and a distant 3rd row in the hotter qualifying), how to set it up or fix it's inconsistencies and threaded water in terms of development all year.

With that said opened up engine and chassis regulations offer a chance for a fresh start, so yeah the possibility is there.

[TAG]

This seems like an appropriate time for one of my favorite jokes...

Heaven is where the police are British, the lovers French, the mechanics German, the chefs Italian, and it is all organized by the Swiss. Hell is where the police are German, the lovers Swiss, the mechanics French, the chefs British, and it is all organized by the Italians.

[Manoah2u]

good news on the Ferrari 2017 direction :

http://www.motor1.com/news/132520/ferra ... r-preview/

Ferrari tipped for new livery, engine tech in F1

there are suggestions the team will abandon the white stripe that returned last year.

The white had been historically associated with bad times and, after a season where the SF16-H took 11 podiums but no wins, Ferrari's management may hope that reverting to an all-red concept may at least mark the start of a new chapter.

Ferrari president Sergio Marchionne and team principal Maurizio Arrivabene want to turn the page on a disappointing 2016 campaign.

Allison's departure last July was not painless for the team, because some of those left behind were not convinced about the new structure that was put in place, where there would no longer be a pyramid reporting structure but a more horizontal one.

And although the two chief men at Maranello are not going to risk making firm predictions for 2017, they are both convinced in the job that the technical group under Mattia Binotto can do.

Binotto is an excellent organiser, and is credited with giving a chance of redemption for a lot of the specialists in the racing department that were left in the shadows by the arrival of James Allison and other technical management.

the team wants to hold back on unleashing its engine (with only four power units available for 2017) and its aerodynamic developments until the last possible minute.

In engine terms, the 062/2 marks a different direction for the team – with its head of ERS, Thierry Baritaud, set to be given an internal combustion engine that will make better use of the MGU-H – which should increase the efficiency of the hybrid systems and also limit the risks of turbocharger reliability.

But perhaps the most radical innovation concerns the combustion chamber, with Ferrari considering the use of a new multi-jet ignition system that will move the team to the next level in its relationship with the Mahle technology company.

Ferrari's gearbox is also set to be heavily revised, because the 2016 concept of mounting the rear suspension between the differential and the gearbox proved useful for helping deliver a very narrow rear suspension but was not very efficient in maximising traction at the rear axle.

So Ferrari is set to revert to a more proven solution, and will pursue a front suspension route similar to Mercedes.

The overall chassis dimensions are also set to change, although this has been partly forced on it because the fuel tank capacity will be increasing from 100kg to 105kg as part of the new regulations.

It is expected that the wheelbase of 3494mm will grow by around 200mm – with the engine set slightly further back compared to last year's car.

At Maranello the team is staying tight-lipped about what is being planned, but there are expected to be some surprises from the 668 (the codename of Ferrari's 2017 car) – amid talk that there are some 'unusual' shapes on the wind tunnel model.

http://www.f1-fansite.com/f1-news/repor ... 00hp-2017/

Ferrari will crack the 1000 horse power barrier with its 2017 engine, according to a report in Italy's La Gazzetta dello Sport.

The sports newspaper also speculated that the Maranello team's new machine, codenamed 668 and set to be launched on February 24, will have a narrow nose and new gearbox.

As for power, the correspondent wrote: "Among other things, the increased fuel allowance will (mean the engine can) achieve and exceed 1000hp, which was already approached last season with peaks of 970-980hp."

emphasized some things that raised my interest.

[mika vs michael]

When things are quiet in Maranello, Ferrari usually produces miracles. When you hear news about 1000hp engine power etc then you know they are in the middle of nowhere. The more extravagant the news the less possible Ferrari is about to build something innovative and quick out of the box. Let's hope we will be proven wrong but history indicates that Ferrari can't make much of big rules changes. See 1998, 2005, 2009 etc...

[mika vs michael]

Maybe the first Ferrari victory of the season -https://twitter.com/ScarbsTech/status/8 ... 4473475072

[Manoah2u]

source?

[mika vs michael]

source?

Graig Scarborough.

[Manoah2u]

i can see that, it's in the twitter fcol.
Craig doesn't generally talk out of his general behind, but i am curious on where Craig
got this information and whether there's an actual FIA comment about that, officially.

[mika vs michael]

Ok but for that you have to ask Mr Scarborough...

[lio007]

i can see that, it's in the twitter fcol.
Craig doesn't generally talk out of his general behind, but i am curious on where Craig
got this information and whether there's an actual FIA comment about that, officially.

Technical directives unfortunately never going public. What i understand is, that scarbs has access to this TD.

[PlatinumZealot]

Mark hughes has written an atricle on it.

[GoranF1]

Maybe the first Ferrari victory of the season -https://twitter.com/ScarbsTech/status/8 ... 4473475072

It will be the last.
Ferrari doesnt do well on big regulation change seasons.
I could be wrong though.

[f1316]

I think it's unfair to say they didn't do well in 1998; if it's "they didn't do well in the first race of 1998", then fine, but ultimately they challenged for the title that year (until the very last race ) and built a platform upon which their glory period was built.