Or it's just for pit stop practiceRobbobnob wrote:Highly doubt that any team has a fully assembled prototype let alone painted in livery yet.
based on the curved steering wheel its some sort of mutant unless that is a factory gig for testing suspension geometry.
And presumably on the Renault PU:Newey confirms the 2017 Red Bull has passed its crash test, about the earliest the team has done that, he says.
And some not car-related quotes:"This last year, they made very good progress through the season. Still behind Mercedes and Ferrari, but closing the gap rather than the gap widening," Newey says. "I know the numbers for this year, it's a good step forward. What we don't know, it's the same for us, is what our rivals have been up to."
Newey says Max Verstappen's driving style reminds him of Nigel Mansell. "With Nigel, you knew it was him in the car. Max is the same, it's exciting television."
"The big teams have more facilities so stand to do better with the regulation change, the grid will be wider apart this year."
"Fast corners are simply bends on the straight now," he says, "But the cars will be more physical to drive now, which I think is a good thing."
, wasn't he?). sry for OT.based on what excatly?FrukostScones wrote:Thank God Newey clears it up: VES is the new Mansell and not the new Senna
(that was HAM anyway
Seems to me that the RB 13 will be the most quickly maturing F1 car of 2017.... they will outdevelop everyone.
only the all-new Renault PU could spoil the party.
giantfan10 wrote:based on what excatly?FrukostScones wrote:Thank God Newey clears it up: VES is the new Mansell and not the new Senna
(that was HAM anyway
Seems to me that the RB 13 will be the most quickly maturing F1 car of 2017.... they will outdevelop everyone.
only the all-new Renault PU could spoil the party.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/125153Newey 'excited' by new 2017 technical regulations
https://translate.google.com/translate? ... t=&act=urlTeam RedBull had started to work on 2017 project well in advance so that, after a careful and final inspection of parts by Adrian Newey in person, most of the new car parts had already been sent into production in the last ten days of November.
So they are ahead of schedule probably, max development time because from their 2017 regs. proposal a lot was realised, like 1850mm FW, huge barge boards etc.Newey confirms the 2017 Red Bull has passed its crash test, about the earliest the team has done that, he says.
New car? ... I dont think sonamao wrote:https://s29.postimg.org/796eftpuf/image.png
First pic of the new car. See the rear wing.
Are we to take it then that RB haven't got one and are thinking that they've missed a trick, or something else?Red Bull unsuccessfully tried to find support among teams to ban huge engine cover fins (sails) in yesterdays strategy group meeting.
I have to agree, they look awful and should be banned.roon wrote:Might just be an aesthetic consideration. The engine cover fins in F1 & LMP1 seen in the past decade have been a polarizing addition. RB usually seem keen on improving spectacle. Faster cars, better looking cars. They pushed for the aeroscreen rather than the halo, for example. That they wouldn't want a return to billboards-on-wheels seems to follow.
This was discussed some time ago. It's not that red bull have missed the trick, but rather due to their rake setup they are in a position to gain the least from this concept, whereas mercedes are supposed to gain the most. So it was an attempt to hurt mercedes more or less.domh245 wrote:This is an interesting development? https://twitter.com/tgruener/status/821750586165133313
Are we to take it then that RB haven't got one and are thinking that they've missed a trick, or something else?Red Bull unsuccessfully tried to find support among teams to ban huge engine cover fins (sails) in yesterdays strategy group meeting.
The reason for the return of the sails are the new rear wing regulations. The 2017 rear wing is just 80cm instead of 95 cm above the reference plane. It's also 95cm instead of 75cm wide. Because of its position the rear wing gets hit by the turbulent air from the front axle. With the current wings the turbulent air passes under the wing. This is less of a problem for cars running with high rake angles like the Red Bull, Force India, or McLaren, than it is for a Mercedes, Renault, or Sauber, which are running with just half as much rake. This is because depending on the rake angle the turbulent air reaches the rear at a different height relative to the rear wing. With 1.9° of rake the wing sits higher above the road than with exactly one degree. This makes it easier to push the turbulences under the wing as before.
The airbox sail helps to push the turbulences away from the rear wing while cornering. We are hearing from teams that practically all teams will use this airbox variant in 2017. It will certainly be used on those cars, which don't run with as much rake as Red Bull. As everyone is aware of the issue, Red Bull tried to convince the FIA of banning the sail for aesthetic reasons during a meeting of the technical working group. This was obviously just a pretext, because in Milton Keynes they knew very well that a ban would hurt their main rival Mercedes the most.
