Fisichella pulls a Fisichella again

[manchild]

"At the start of last year, I was confident we would be able to fight for the championship - but the car just wasn't as quick as it was in 2005 and 2006."

Than why didn't you fight for the championship in 2005 and 2006?!

[West]

This is what I don't get. Before Alonso joined Renault everybody thought he was such a great driver. Now everybody is ripping on him. You're only a good driver until a World Champion beats you; then you're worthless?

[Roland Ehnström]

Well, he was also beaten by rookie Heikki Kovalainen last year...

Don't get me wrong, I still think Fisi is good, and worth a place on the grid. But much like DC and Rubens, he is not world champion material.

[Ciro Pabón]

Well, I'm with West. More or less, the rule at the F1Technical Club is that you don't talk (bad) about the people that risk his life for the fans of F1Technical Club.

You make jokes on them, like MC is trying to do.

All them drivers are WDC material. Not all teams are. It's like a greek tragedy: the potential is there and is wasted quickly, in front of your eyes. You know the idea: "life is a b*tch, then you die".

Besides, to be WCC you have to be a little egothistical, childish, prepotent and lucky, the same as Achilles (saint patron of prepotents) or Epimetheus (father of excuses). Not to mention that you have to pretend that your luck depends only on your ability.

Sophocles would be happy at the paddock, carrying a laptop.

I always think that it's like the old tale of Prometheus:

Epimetheus was given the task of giving each animal a positive quality. When the turn of man arrived, he had spent all of them on animals, so we were left without any positive qualities... like some Giancarlo critics thinks that happens to him...

As a punishment, Zeus created the first woman for old Epi... Strong punishment (sorry, Principessa, I did not write the tale).

[manchild]

Well, he was also beaten by rookie Heikki Kovalainen last year...

Indeed. Kovalainen 30 points, Fisichella 21. That's almost 50% more points of Fisichella's score.

I think he was a championship material in his early seasons when he showed enthusiasm. Unfortunately, in his recent seasons he had none, just like Ralf.

[Rob W]

...Now everybody is ripping on him. You're only a good driver until a World Champion beats you; then you're worthless?

I agree. People pay out Fisichella but I don't remember hearing people saying how crap Barrichello was during his time at Ferrari, or Coulthard at McLaren (alongside Mika).

Fisi might give legendary testing feedback for all we know. That alone is a great asset to a team and, to be honest, most teams run themselves knowing that one driver is more capable of winning races than the other.

I guess you could also say it about a few other drivers too but, given the ideal set-up, Fisichella is an amazing driver capable of winning races regularly. Perhaps his tolerance for slight balance changes or set-ups is very low - making him good for feedback/set-up but hard to prepare a car for on race day.

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[Saribro]

given the ideal set-up, Fisichella is an amazing driver capable of winning races regularly.

So he's gotten his set-up ideal for all of 3 times in 12 seasons, and never more than once a season? ...

[donskar]

Interesting quote by Fizzy in Autosport says a lot about him:
I still love Formula One," he explained. "I absolutely love driving and I love the sport...another reason I wanted to stay in F1 is because Force India looks like a very promising programme. I want to be part of that from the start and I want to grow up with this team."

We can all applaud him because he loves the sport (and I think he loves it more than money or ego), and it says a lot (even if a Freudian slip) that wants to "grow up with this team."

I wonder how good he'll be when he grows up?

[Spencifer_Murphy]

I think Fisi suffers from something that also Rubens is suffering from:

There's a theory that if you drive a crappy car for long enough you loose your edge. People suggested the same about JV.

That coupled with the fact that I think mentally, Fisi is in the same mould as Jarno. He needs to feel "loved" within a team, and happy. He performs at his best when he's happy.

Think about it, he drives crappy cars, or cars for teams which have just fallen from grace, or about to (unbeknown to anybody) rise to fame. He FINALLY gets a drive worthy of his supposed skill with Renault in 2005, and he wins first time out, dominately. he's happy. Then something goes wrong, and it all slowly starts to fall apart, his young team-mate then takes the lead and the team start fabouring him. What a bummer that must have been - and fair to assume that he's not a happy driver by this point.

Fisi's a good driver, maybe not WDC champ, but a good driver & a nice guy, he loves the sport, and is a proven race winner. He deserves a good car, but if you're going to try and get wins from him you need to keep him happy. And quite frankly if you're hiring a driver its you're job to ensure you provide them with the resources (not just the car) to get the results you'd like to see from him.

If you want him as a number two, then fine - but don't whine when he doesn't win championships. If you want championships from him then fine - but give him what he needs to accomplish that.

[ackzsel]

There's a theory that if you drive a crappy car for long enough you loose your edge. People suggested the same about JV.

Sounds plausible, but Fisichella wasn't really driving a crappy car for the last three years, was he?

[PNSD]

There's a theory that if you drive a crappy car for long enough you loose your edge. People suggested the same about JV.

Sounds plausible, but Fisichella wasn't really driving a crappy car for the last three years, was he?

But thats the point...

He had been driving them prior to Renault.

[sebbe]

Well, I'm with West. More or less, the rule at the F1Technical Club is that you don't talk (bad) about the people that risk his life for the fans of F1Technical Club.

I didn't know that rule!
Now I know why everybody got mad at me when I said Takuma was a crappy driver (I still think he is).
It's not like they're risking their lives for us, Ciro. They get paid HUGE salaries for being glorified taxi drivers. (here it comes again!)

I think Fisi suffers from something that also Rubens is suffering from:

There's a theory that if you drive a crappy car for long enough you loose your edge. People suggested the same about JV.

That coupled with the fact that I think mentally, Fisi is in the same mould as Jarno. He needs to feel "loved" within a team, and happy. He performs at his best when he's happy.

In my neightbourhood we call them p*ssies...

If he is as good as he thinks he is, why didn't he push the team during 2007 to fight for the third place in the constructor's championship?
Because he lacks of "the will of the warrior" (Futurama quote there).

[waynes]

Fisichella had his chances and blew them, im at this minute watching the 2005 Japanese GP

if i was Flavio i would have binned him after this race, the distinct lack of pace, the fact he had a full engine worth of revs, and he still couldnt bring home the car in 1st place. Inspired drive by Kimi yes, but the win was there for Fisichella to lose, and he did

should not be in F1 now in my opinion

[Spencifer_Murphy]

I'd sooner have Fisi than Scott Speed, Ralf or Luizzi. And as a side note realsing tht these three aren't racing next year I'm forced to think:

Is this year going to be a year with a proper 100% worthy grid of drivers?

Anyway back to Fisi. Sebbe you may call him a p*ssy but not all people can have this "I can win, even if I have qualified last" attitude. Some people are just, well, softer. And as a racer yes it's probably a flaw, but on his day Fisi is as good as most.

I'm not saying Fisi is a great race driver. On his day he's great but tht's the problem, on his day is far too infrequent for a truely great racing driver. But he's still more than quick enough for a midfield team. At the end of the day if he's treated properly he'll deliver.

As far as Flavio's concerened he should be just as dissappointed with his handling of Fisi's softer side, as he is with Fisi's driving.

[Belatti]

Is this year going to be a year with a proper 100% worthy grid of drivers?

Before saying that I would like to see Nakajima´s performance. We know Glock is quite worthy. I hope Bourdais don´t suffer the "Zanardi sympthom".

PS: Please excuse Sebbes behavior, we Argentines are like the bad*ss Vikings from the south hemisphere and are used to overcome big opposition!