New Red Bull engine cover

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Belatti
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I rather prefer the Tim Burton Batmovil.
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These times of teams testing aero weird stuff leads to me think this:
How about mounting an "any-weird-stupid-nonfuctional" aero device, give a couple of laps and take 20 pics in order to make rival teams confuse and spend money developing nonsense?
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Benniau
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The thing I don't understand about the Tim Burton Batmobile is that there appears to be a Jet engine mounted at the front of the car, and a big fire breathing exhaust at the back... how does this pass through the cabin?

The new batmobile looks stupid.

They should get Adrian Newey to design the new one. An F1 car with no resitrictions, and lots of gadgets like grappling hooks and stuff. Oh and of course a big fire breathing exhaust at the back to make it look cool.

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The design is actually a common one, although not in motor racing.

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Here we can see an engine air intake with a stabalising tail wing. Obviously the design criteria is different but racecars and aircraft have so much in common I'm amazed this hasn't been experimented with more often.
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Belatti wrote:..How about mounting an "any-weird-stupid-nonfuctional" aero device, give a couple of laps and take 20 pics in order to make rival teams confuse and spend money developing nonsense?
Oh crap - another 500k of our budget eaten up :lol:

(the perils of spending caps #243)

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Belatti wrote: How about mounting an "any-weird-stupid-nonfuctional" aero device, give a couple of laps and take 20 pics in order to make rival teams confuse and spend money developing nonsense?
Great Idea :D =D>

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I see most of you blokes don't like this thingy, eh? To me it's admirable just for the sole reason of being THAT different. You don't get much radical stuff these days. But hey, Newey had the balls to draw that thing!.. or maybe someone just pushed his elbow right at the moment he was drawing the new engine cover silhouette :)

The concept reminds me of the ancient soviet movie The Amphibian Man (1962). The guy had that fin on the back of his head. It looked just like that.

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modbaraban said:
maybe someone just pushed his elbow right at the moment he was drawing the new engine cover silhouette
Maybe that's the explanation for Mark Webber's sideburns too? "M"?
http://formula-1.updatesport.com/news/a ... /view.html

bizadfar
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Tom Hockley wrote:modbaraban said:
maybe someone just pushed his elbow right at the moment he was drawing the new engine cover silhouette
Maybe that's the explanation for Mark Webber's sideburns too? "M"?
http://formula-1.updatesport.com/news/a ... /view.html
& "W" 8)

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Tom
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Is it possible that there's a slit in the top of the cover? The air over the top will most likely be lower pressure than inside the engine cover and hot air rises so the heat from the engine bay would literally be forced out the top.

Another possibility is that the engine cover itself is designed to conduct height and the extension is actually a giant radiator. Seeing as a key component of drag is frontal area and this isn't actually increased with this design then why not make it a giant fin?
Carbon Fibre isn't a great heat conductor but if the inside of the cover were painted matt black...
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With all this talk about how this fin may be affected during heavy crosswind. I am interested to know how the airflow generated from forward movement affects or mitigates the forces of a crosswind. One would think that as the forward movement and related airflow increases the crosswind effect becomes minimized ?

Is this correct, or do I not know what I am talking about (which is the case regardless).
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I think it's that it will be more sensitive to gusts, as opposed to a crosswind,which will always be somwhere on a track.
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The teams have incredible meterological data, and probably have records of what weather happened at every race for the last few years.

With this info they would know that certain tracks are more/less likely to suffer wind conditions that would affect a car using this cover. So it could be (assuming it's only an aero aide) something that's used at specific GP's only.
- Axle