2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

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hemichromis
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Hope you caught that on your dashcam!

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hemichromis wrote:Hope you caught that on your dashcam!
No dashcam and the mobile was out of hand but too funny not to share, still make me sill!! The P1 was white and what an ass it has :D :D

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66 laps and counting for Alonso so far, much more encouraging. Even though it's not at full power it allows McLaren to gain some much needed data. Fingers crossed for more tomorrow.

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Yes a good day over all. Was nice to see the lap count going up and up! Also good to see a slight improvement on the lap time.
The power of Red Bull Powertrains!

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Hesegawa playing dumb on the one question :lol: To be fair the reporter was asking the question in a confrontational manner. Good on Hasegawa for shutting him down.

http://www.newsf1.it/press-conference-m ... lona-2017/

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Redragon wrote:I couldn't stop laughing today on the M5 when I passed with my Honda Civic 2002 at 70 mph a Mclaren P1 driving just a 50 mph, the Irony moment!
I hope you didn't miss a temporary speed limit...or joke could be on you [/joking]

Actually, my Dad does the same thing. He has a Skyline GTR and yet sticks to 55 on the motorway...

Come to think of it, maybe the P1 was low on fuel and running in electric only mode or something. No less silly though!!
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Already 15 laps done during the first 50 minutes, lst's hope the rest of the day looks similar.

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Yes, most laps of all teams atm. Hopefully gathering some valuable data for wet conditions.

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18 laps done but the last hour they have been quite quiet.

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No need to post it 3 times. Since it comes from Honda and it is engine-related, one post in the Engine thread would have sufficed.

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"The Mercedes looks pretty reasonable on the soft tyres - still moving and with more understeer than the Ferrari - but not so good on the medium tyre, just no grip.

"Through that complex, the McLaren never looked good. Alonso couldn't get hard on the throttle out of Turn 2 - the car just starts moving - and I never saw him go into Turn 3 flat on the throttle.

"He's either having to lift big time beforehand, or just as he's coming into the corner. It's not understeer, just a lack of grip.

"McLaren can't really complain about Honda's engine, because there are still horses left in there that they're not using at the minute. It looks OK on the very softest tyres, but on softs and mediums - the most relevant tyres for this track - it's just not there."

McLaren's issues are not confined to the first complex, either.

"Up at Turn 9, the same thing," Anderson adds. "The Ferrari can commit properly on the way in, with barely a lift off the throttle. The McLaren can't do that. Obviously I don't know what the fuel loads are, but if Alonso doesn't lift and slow the car down on the way into the corner significantly, it won't go round properly. It doesn't look like it's got a horrendous balance problem, but it does look like it's got a grip problem.



"The Sauber is not a good chassis - that's one end of the scale. The Ferrari is at the other end of the scale. At the very best the McLaren is in the middle - and that would be giving it a pat on the back.

"I don't know how many McLaren people have been around the track, but I've been around it a few times, and I've never seen a McLaren driver able to commit. It's visible in both sound and vision."
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GoranF1 wrote:"The Mercedes looks pretty reasonable on the soft tyres - still moving and with more understeer than the Ferrari - but not so good on the medium tyre, just no grip.

"Through that complex, the McLaren never looked good. Alonso couldn't get hard on the throttle out of Turn 2 - the car just starts moving - and I never saw him go into Turn 3 flat on the throttle.

"He's either having to lift big time beforehand, or just as he's coming into the corner. It's not understeer, just a lack of grip.

"McLaren can't really complain about Honda's engine, because there are still horses left in there that they're not using at the minute. It looks OK on the very softest tyres, but on softs and mediums - the most relevant tyres for this track - it's just not there."

McLaren's issues are not confined to the first complex, either.

"Up at Turn 9, the same thing," Anderson adds. "The Ferrari can commit properly on the way in, with barely a lift off the throttle. The McLaren can't do that. Obviously I don't know what the fuel loads are, but if Alonso doesn't lift and slow the car down on the way into the corner significantly, it won't go round properly. It doesn't look like it's got a horrendous balance problem, but it does look like it's got a grip problem.



"The Sauber is not a good chassis - that's one end of the scale. The Ferrari is at the other end of the scale. At the very best the McLaren is in the middle - and that would be giving it a pat on the back.

"I don't know how many McLaren people have been around the track, but I've been around it a few times, and I've never seen a McLaren driver able to commit. It's visible in both sound and vision."

How does he know that this is because of the limits of the chassis and not the driver babying the g-forces on the engine?

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Macklaren wrote:
GoranF1 wrote:"The Mercedes looks pretty reasonable on the soft tyres - still moving and with more understeer than the Ferrari - but not so good on the medium tyre, just no grip.

"Through that complex, the McLaren never looked good. Alonso couldn't get hard on the throttle out of Turn 2 - the car just starts moving - and I never saw him go into Turn 3 flat on the throttle.

"He's either having to lift big time beforehand, or just as he's coming into the corner. It's not understeer, just a lack of grip.

"McLaren can't really complain about Honda's engine, because there are still horses left in there that they're not using at the minute. It looks OK on the very softest tyres, but on softs and mediums - the most relevant tyres for this track - it's just not there."

McLaren's issues are not confined to the first complex, either.

"Up at Turn 9, the same thing," Anderson adds. "The Ferrari can commit properly on the way in, with barely a lift off the throttle. The McLaren can't do that. Obviously I don't know what the fuel loads are, but if Alonso doesn't lift and slow the car down on the way into the corner significantly, it won't go round properly. It doesn't look like it's got a horrendous balance problem, but it does look like it's got a grip problem.



"The Sauber is not a good chassis - that's one end of the scale. The Ferrari is at the other end of the scale. At the very best the McLaren is in the middle - and that would be giving it a pat on the back.

"I don't know how many McLaren people have been around the track, but I've been around it a few times, and I've never seen a McLaren driver able to commit. It's visible in both sound and vision."

How does he know that this is because of the limits of the chassis and not the driver babying the g-forces on the engine?
go and check De la Rosa, Horner comments in test thread....this from Gary is good even compared to those comments.
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AUDIO PRESS CONFERENCE MCLAREN DAY 3 TEST BARCELLONA 2017

http://www.newsf1.it/press-conference-m ... lona-2017/