Prelation (F1 in 100 years)

[gold333]

This is an idea for discussion:

You are allowed segment budgets: (figures are irrelevant, just as an example)

Engine development: e.g. 20 million
Aero: e.g. 6 million
Suspension: e.g. 15 million
Chassis: e.g. 20 million

Etc.

You get, for example, 20 million for developing an engine. ANY engine. You want a V12 naturally aspirated? Go ahead. Turbo V4? Sure. You want a gas turbine? Ok. Ion laser propulsion? Knock yourself out.

You spend the 20 million how you want.

Same with suspension: you get e.g. 15 million. You can do what you want, active suspension, passive, reactive, maglev, electro levitation, whatever.

Working within addressed specific safety constraints it would work. Obviously you don't want 60 foot flames coming off a car, so using predetermined safety conditions.


It would turn F1 from a simple global autorace event, into the LEADING platform for illustrating the current maximum potential of the INTELLECT (engineers) and BRAVERY (drivers) of the HUMAN RACE.

...and It would be marketable like nothing else on the planet.

[Manoah2u]

20 million is nothing, it wouldnt get you far. you might buy some good brakes and suspension arms.

and i dont get the 'f1 in 100 years' part in the title. explain please?

[cplchanb]

in 100 years oil wouldve been almost depleted so v12 is for sure out of the question...and maybe even v4

[Manoah2u]

in 100 years oil wouldve been almost depleted so v12 is for sure out of the question...and maybe even v4

o rly?

http://www.rense.com/general63/refil.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/09/26/scien ... wanted=all

offcourse, the oil lobby doesn't want you to know that, nor does the 'green lobby'. your panic about non-existing oil 'depletion'
causes you to just open up your wallet and throw more money towards both the government as the oil corporations.

oh and

http://hubpages.com/politics/Peak-Oil-or-Nonsense

yeah, you really ought to re-think whether the term 'fossil fuels' are really the truth, or another (political) lie that you 'must' believe so you 'must' pay more.

and that's without even digging into this

http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill ... as_we.html

fuel depleted? don't me laugh.

[Cold Fussion]

yeah, you really ought to re-think whether the term 'fossil fuels' are really the truth, or another (political) lie that you 'must' believe so you 'must' pay more.

It's hard to understand your logic because as a consumer you have no choice but to pay for petrol at the price offered.

[cplchanb]

in 100 years oil wouldve been almost depleted so v12 is for sure out of the question...and maybe even v4

o rly?

http://www.rense.com/general63/refil.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/09/26/scien ... wanted=all

offcourse, the oil lobby doesn't want you to know that, nor does the 'green lobby'. your panic about non-existing oil 'depletion'
causes you to just open up your wallet and throw more money towards both the government as the oil corporations.

oh and

http://hubpages.com/politics/Peak-Oil-or-Nonsense

yeah, you really ought to re-think whether the term 'fossil fuels' are really the truth, or another (political) lie that you 'must' believe so you 'must' pay more.

and that's without even digging into this

http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill ... as_we.html

fuel depleted? don't me laugh.

wow....arent you the slighted one....first of all with the exception of the 22 year old article by the NYT...the other articles seem written by small town news or some lobbyist group that was found by a deep google search. I get that there are cases where perhaps oil wells are being refilled by some unknown seepage from probably a deeper well or whatnot but consider this quote from the NYT article that you kindly supplied:

"The Geological Survey recently estimated that the world has about 1.7 trillion barrels of oil from conventional sources, enough for about 75 years at current production rates. However, if the consumption of oil should increase at a modest 3 percent annually, the survey estimates, production could be maintained for only about 31 years."

Face it, even if there is a so called refill of the wells our rate of consumption and increase of consumption far exceeds the rate of resupply, unless you kill all the fish in the ocean right now and bury them for the next 50 years.

[The_table]

There's always bio-ethanol when the fuel runs out (Only to be used for entertainment purposes obviously, not to power all cars/trucks in the world.).

You're about 400 million short on the budget (or was that deliberate? )
Not to mention that tracking how much teams spend is actually very hard to do...

Anyways, my first taught was "people are going to die", rules that open would produce dynamite fueled spaceships and if you wanted to make it safe you would end up with what we have right now(ie : very specific rules)

I still wonder if just a fuel flow limit, electric deployment limit ,a ban on exotic materials and no rockets,jet engines, etc... would work for the engines.

[Greg Locock]

In 1992 I was snowed in in a hut in NZ. The only thing to read was an old National Geographic, from the early 70s. Its lead article was Hubbert's one predicting peak oil by 2000.


Here's a not very peaky looking graph



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_oil# ... 0-2013.png

[mrluke]

Very strict safety rules / crash tests.

Minimum weight limit for the driver and seat.

Maximum amount of energy allowed to be stored in the car on the grid with no refueling.

Have at it.

[bill shoe]

100 years is very far off for cars. Not sure what energy source would be used. Many types of energy could probably provide car performance that reached the limits of human tolerance, so probably not that big a deal what type of energy.

It would be extremely safe. We hate to say it but a top-level racing formula with no danger is hard to sustain because it becomes, well, a driving contest.

More than anything, I think it would be beautiful if something like current human-driven F1 existed at all then. My kids could tell their grandkids that their great-grandfather remembered Senna winning 5 of 6 races over Prost in the summer of 1988.

And let's not forget that in 100 years, Formula One Management's commercial rights to F1 will have ended by contract around 15 years previously!