Only time I can think of this happening in recent years is '92, they used the MP4/6 for the first few races of '93. In '03 they scrapped the use of the MP4/18 and reverted to an updated spec MP4/17, that's not really the same thing though.harjan wrote: ↑23 Mar 2017, 21:36Could you specify which years they did this? I know of McLaren of introducing a b-spec chassis, of coming out with a dud of a car and improving it into a winner over the duration of a season. Also know them of coming with a car that was 2 sec quicker than any other car ('98).godlameroso wrote: ↑23 Mar 2017, 19:24McLaren often used to use last year's chassis because they were still developing the current model year chassis, sometimes introducing it 4 or 5 races into the season. McLaren get's a pass but not Honda? Ridiculous.
But I can't recall McLaren ever using an older chassis.
The only thing we have is the original article, which is in Japanese. But you're right, the translation misinterprets many things.
In the final 2 days, it was a trouble caused by the car's vibration. Not the trouble in engine itself. Actual troubles are crack in carbon pipe in chassis side and harness detached.
Asked if it wouldn't have happened had engine vibration gone, I cannot tell. The car vibrated by riding on kerbs, it's certain that it had influence. Suppose there is such weakness on chassis side, that is a worry for sure.
We exchanged engine several times in order to fix ancillaries. That's why they thought we broke 5 engines, but we haven't disclosed the number of engines used.
Regarding driveability, I think it has improved. It's something we can deal with on dyno at Sakura, so we have worked on it. However, we havent run it on track yet, so its actual effect is unknown as of today.
(there is no nuance and connection such as "work on engine mapping that should improve the vibration issues" in the original/Japanese article. It's purely about improving performance.)
https://jp.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-%E ... 84-885035/
underpowered or running in mega conservative mode. we dnt know , quali will make picture clear. looks like Honda has made progress in terms of reliability at least in past few weeks.
Haven't read anything more stupid than this before...
Hopefully the latter. I'm sure all other teams are running conservative too but the fact they have sorted the reliability to this degree is encouraging.
I won't go further into that. I thought this is a technical thread about honda PU, not a political, demagogical soccer fan thread. Sorry again if I hurt someone.daniellammers wrote: ↑24 Mar 2017, 08:51Haven't read anything more stupid than this before...
E.G. Hybrids from Toyota
The loops every 200m have been there for years, but only the teams had that data before (which is part of why they were so much better informed than anyone else in the past).
I know they have always been there, that's why I specifically said TV. It's great that Liberty has given us this additional information.Craigy wrote: ↑24 Mar 2017, 09:09The loops every 200m have been there for years, but only the teams had that data before (which is part of why they were so much better informed than anyone else in the past).
I've not seen any footage yet - has anyone done back to back comparisons of things like apex speeds versus corner exit speeds yet?