2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

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Quickshifter

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JonoNic wrote:
08 Apr 2017, 11:18
GoranF1 wrote:Car looks from onboard alot less twichy then for example the Renault who finished 6th i think?
Just need that spec 2 Honda now.
2.7 sec off Hamilton's Q1 pole is much better than the predicted 'last and second last' placings. I just hope that the spec 2 PU has even more potential. The current PU is still not using TJI right?

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From what i heard it does because its impossible to take it off....its just not runed as it is supposed to.
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In this we can see in which gears go and rpm.

https://youtu.be/79_z1ufKxnQ
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No strange upshift sounds anymore. Car looks very stable 8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79_z1ufKxnQ

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JuanjoTS wrote:
08 Apr 2017, 15:58
In this we can see in which gears go and rpm.

79_z1ufKxnQ
Balance wise i see nothing worng....almost no correction on the steering wheel at all?
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I wonder how much of a lead would Alonso need to keep his position at the end of the long straight?

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On what drogs do you guys think Gary Anderson is?
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GoranF1 wrote:
08 Apr 2017, 16:00
JuanjoTS wrote:
08 Apr 2017, 15:58
In this we can see in which gears go and rpm.

79_z1ufKxnQ
Balance wise i see nothing worng....almost no correction on the steering wheel at all?
Jef Patat wrote:
08 Apr 2017, 16:00
No strange upshift sounds anymore. Car looks very stable 8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79_z1ufKxnQ
It seems that the problems start in the 5 gear slightly, 6,7,8 gear is more accused.
But it sounds a lot better certainly.
The chassis is not forced to the maximum by the deficiency of the engine, but it looks very good. =D>

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JonoNic wrote:
08 Apr 2017, 16:06
I wonder how much of a lead would Alonso need to keep his position at the end of the long straight?

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Without anyone in front to be able to use the drs and someone behind the neck to shot drs seems to be easy to overtake.
Because of the speed at the corners I think it will be difficult to leave, so I predict that we will always see someone ahead, benefiting from the drs but not being able to overtake him. The final position seems to be established in the first 2 laps, then depend on reliability, tire consumption and fuel, leaving aside the weather, tomorrow seems like a fun race.

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Let's hope he has a brilliant start then.

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Fernando Alonso admitted to being pessimistic heading into qualifying for the Chinese Grand Prix but was able to surprise himself by making it through to the second phase and ultimately will start the race on Sunday from thirteenth on the grid.

The McLaren Honda Formula 1 Team driver felt he got more out of his MCL32 during the session at the Shanghai International Circuit than he was expecting, which makes his starting position ‘a nice surprise’.

“I think I extracted the maximum from the car today – I was flat-out and pushed like an animal,” said Alonso.

“We were pessimistic going into qualifying, after our FP3 performance had been very uncompetitive and we’d felt we had nothing left, but in quali the car picked up some pace and we were able to make it into Q2 and get 13th, which was a nice surprise.”

Alonso believes the team would struggle to score points in the race on Sunday should it stay dry, so would benefit if the expected rain comes, which he also feels would make it a more enjoyable for the fans.

“For tomorrow’s race, the expected rain will help us, since in dry conditions it would be difficult to score points, but in wet conditions anything could happen,” added Alonso.

“We need some chaos in the race, basically. We’ve raced here in those conditions in the past so we have to use that experience and take any opportunity that opens up in front of us.

“If it rains it will be a good race to watch for the fans: they’ll enjoy it and for us it’ll be fun too – if we can take our chances.”

2017 Formula 1 Chinese Grand Prix - Shanghai International CircuitFernando AlonsoMcLaren Honda Formula 1 Team

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Once again the circuit with all the long straights that was expected to show up just how weak the Honda engine is, instead gives a pretty solid performance.

It's clearly not working at its best but I don't think it's that far off say the Renault pu. Need to do a bit of analysis on it.

I'm going to say that if it's a wet race then don't expect Mclaren to do that well, think Brazil last year. Their chassis / down force is not really their strength.

Overall its good to see that Mclaren Honda are still knocking on the door of q3 despite all the doom and gloom.

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mrluke wrote:
08 Apr 2017, 18:55
Once again the circuit with all the long straights that was expected to show up just how weak the Honda engine is, instead gives a pretty solid performance.

It's clearly not working at its best but I don't think it's that far off say the Renault pu. Need to do a bit of analysis on it.

I'm going to say that if it's a wet race then don't expect Mclaren to do that well, think Brazil last year. Their chassis / down force is not really their strength.

Overall its good to see that Mclaren Honda are still knocking on the door of q3 despite all the doom and gloom.
brazil last year is a bad example. button was sleeping and Alonso had a spin. his fight back from where he ended up was the next best thing after Verstappen that race

watching the comparison video, Hamilton is already a car length ahead even before turn 1, you can visibly see the gap increasing on the straights. not saying the McLaren chassis is the best, but I don't think it's half bad. it will only properly be tested once the engine is fully up to speed
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mrluke wrote:
08 Apr 2017, 18:55
Once again the circuit with all the long straights that was expected to show up just how weak the Honda engine is, instead gives a pretty solid performance.

It's clearly not working at its best but I don't think it's that far off say the Renault pu. Need to do a bit of analysis on it.

I'm going to say that if it's a wet race then don't expect Mclaren to do that well, think Brazil last year. Their chassis / down force is not really their strength.

Overall its good to see that Mclaren Honda are still knocking on the door of q3 despite all the doom and gloom.
There's a Q2 video above, where do you see lack of DF?
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mrluke wrote:
08 Apr 2017, 18:55
Once again the circuit with all the long straights that was expected to show up just how weak the Honda engine is, instead gives a pretty solid performance.

It's clearly not working at its best but I don't think it's that far off say the Renault pu. Need to do a bit of analysis on it.

I'm going to say that if it's a wet race then don't expect Mclaren to do that well, think Brazil last year. Their chassis / down force is not really their strength.

Overall its good to see that Mclaren Honda are still knocking on the door of q3 despite all the doom and gloom.
Mclaren's pace defecit is laregely obscured by Alonso's absolutely stellar driving. If you compare VanDoorne, who supposedly is 'this big thing', then the difference is massive. I've only seen VD struggle, whilst Alonso just does what is best and actually gets it there. It's amazing he was P9 for a seriously long time, it's a shame he couldnt repeat that in Q2 but p13 is rather stellar for what they're dealing with. Especially since Australia 'seemed lucky' but rather is starting to show Alonso's capacity, really. Only hampered by the technical problems of the MCL32, which cost him his result in AUS. Hopefully, that won't be the case in china. 17 kmh speed difference on the straight with Mercedes, is insane to still put it there.

i really do hope it'll rain and he'll get that car in p8 or something, that would be massive.
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