2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

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ollandos wrote:
14 Apr 2017, 21:10
very good times if its true from alonso matching on sector 2 the top teams ..i think the track with high brake zone at the end of s/f straight and after first 3 corners straight help for not loose so much on sector 1 ..and the car its not only 100hp less from top engines...the gap its 130-160hp ..on quali mod ..with mix of downforce levels...renault have 45-60hp less from mercedes and 60-80 more than honda ..its my calculate
:D. I think the gap is 134.76hp.....based on my television viewing.
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It won't be long before the first people claim the power deficit to be 200+ bhp.

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GoranF1 wrote:
14 Apr 2017, 21:38
ollandos wrote:
14 Apr 2017, 21:10
very good times if its true from alonso matching on sector 2 the top teams ..i think the track with high brake zone at the end of s/f straight and after first 3 corners straight help for not loose so much on sector 1 ..and the car its not only 100hp less from top engines...the gap its 130-160hp ..on quali mod ..with mix of downforce levels...renault have 45-60hp less from mercedes and 60-80 more than honda ..its my calculate
:D. I think the gap is 134.76hp.....based on my television viewing.
U sure? I think it's 134.77!

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diffuser wrote:
14 Apr 2017, 22:30
GoranF1 wrote:
14 Apr 2017, 21:38
ollandos wrote:
14 Apr 2017, 21:10
very good times if its true from alonso matching on sector 2 the top teams ..i think the track with high brake zone at the end of s/f straight and after first 3 corners straight help for not loose so much on sector 1 ..and the car its not only 100hp less from top engines...the gap its 130-160hp ..on quali mod ..with mix of downforce levels...renault have 45-60hp less from mercedes and 60-80 more than honda ..its my calculate
:D. I think the gap is 134.76hp.....based on my television viewing.
U sure? I think it's 134.77!
what do you think?...its 60-70?....oz it was quit close to 160 on china around your number 134.77 ...people forgget very soon ..1 sec off the pace of mid and 3 from top its not only 60-70hp ..even 100 ...

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ollandos wrote:
14 Apr 2017, 22:58
diffuser wrote:
14 Apr 2017, 22:30
GoranF1 wrote:
14 Apr 2017, 21:38


:D. I think the gap is 134.76hp.....based on my television viewing.
U sure? I think it's 134.77!
what do you think?...its 60-70?....oz it was quit close to 160 on china around your number 134.77 ...people forgget very soon ..1 sec off the pace of mid and 3 from top its not only 60-70hp ..even 100 ...
Its impossible to know...
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ollandos wrote:
14 Apr 2017, 21:10
very good times if its true from alonso matching on sector 2 the top teams ..i think the track with high brake zone at the end of s/f straight and after first 3 corners straight help for not loose so much on sector 1 ..and the car its not only 100hp less from top engines...the gap its 130-160hp ..on quali mod ..with mix of downforce levels...renault have 45-60hp less from mercedes and 60-80 more than honda ..its my calculate
if honda gets the power right that chasis will for sure fight will red bull asap. ferrari/merc are bit head.

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max_speed wrote:
15 Apr 2017, 04:13
ollandos wrote:
14 Apr 2017, 21:10
very good times if its true from alonso matching on sector 2 the top teams ..i think the track with high brake zone at the end of s/f straight and after first 3 corners straight help for not loose so much on sector 1 ..and the car its not only 100hp less from top engines...the gap its 130-160hp ..on quali mod ..with mix of downforce levels...renault have 45-60hp less from mercedes and 60-80 more than honda ..its my calculate
if honda gets the power right that chasis will for sure fight will red bull asap. ferrari/merc are bit head.
I certainly hope so. I just hope a good engine doesn't expose weaknesses in the chassis

btw does anyone have access to the leader board for fp2 with all sector times? all I can find is final lap times
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BosF1 wrote:
14 Apr 2017, 21:59
It won't be long before the first people claim the power deficit to be 200+ bhp.
I'll bite. This bloke I met down the pub told me that his friend has a cousin who once ate a meal at the same restaurant as Alonso's personal trainer and he said that apparently they're actually 202 bhp down on even the Renault 😉
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BosF1 wrote:
14 Apr 2017, 21:59
It won't be long before the first people claim the power deficit to be 200+ bhp.
This current gap with that much power difference, I cant imagine how kind of dominance will come from McLaren Honda when Honda make equally powerful engine.

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etusch wrote:
15 Apr 2017, 15:04
BosF1 wrote:
14 Apr 2017, 21:59
It won't be long before the first people claim the power deficit to be 200+ bhp.
This current gap with that much power difference, I cant imagine how kind of dominance will come from McLaren Honda when Honda make equally powerful engine.
Talk about putting the cart before the horse!

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Painfull to watch this ....engine so bad.
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i'll take back what I said earlier...
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engine broke alonso say on sky ...i believe its all about a change to run the update engine....i think the new engine its there by now ...fresh tires and upgrade engine for the race ....

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ollandos wrote:
15 Apr 2017, 17:47
engine broke alonso say on sky ...i believe its all about a change to run the update engine....i think the new engine its there by now ...fresh tires and upgrade engine for the race ....
I think that's wishful thinking. if I've learned anything this season so far, it's not to do that
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15 Apr 2017, 17:50
ollandos wrote:
15 Apr 2017, 17:47
engine broke alonso say on sky ...i believe its all about a change to run the update engine....i think the new engine its there by now ...fresh tires and upgrade engine for the race ....
I think that's wishful thinking. if I've learned anything this season so far, it's not to do that
i am 99% sure ...there is nothing to lose and much to win ....