2017 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team - Ferrari

[f1316]

Is it just me, or in Arrivabene's comments to Ted (where he commended the team for both bravery and a little bit of 'craziness') was he implying that they did something on the car for qualifying in order to help set up/tyre usage in the race?

Maybe not reading it correctly by that's how I understood his comments.

[Chene_Mostert]

Is it just me, or in Arrivabene's comments to Ted (where he commended the team for both bravery and a little bit of 'craziness') was he implying that they did something on the car for qualifying in order to help set up/tyre usage in the race?

Maybe not reading it correctly by that's how I understood his comments.

They did, Martin mentioned it after Quail. That's why I say Merc Power Plus team seems to miss Nico and Paddy. They are one dimensional. Quail to them is all that counts, it worked for them when they used to have a 1sec advantage. Not any more. If it wasn't for untimely VSC in China it would have been three nil.

[f1316]

Is it just me, or in Arrivabene's comments to Ted (where he commended the team for both bravery and a little bit of 'craziness') was he implying that they did something on the car for qualifying in order to help set up/tyre usage in the race?

Maybe not reading it correctly by that's how I understood his comments.

They did, Martin mentioned it after Quail. That's why I say Merc Power Plus team seems to miss Nico and Paddy. They are one dimensional. Quail to them is all that counts, it worked for them when they used to have a 1sec advantage. Not any more. If it wasn't for untimely VSC in China it would have been three nil.

Thanks did they mention any more info on what exactly they did?

[ferkan]

Yea I guess Ferrari doesnt care if Q gap here is 0.4 or 0.1, you are still 2nd row. May as well make car a beast in race and get a win. GJ by team!

[Vanja #66]

To be honest, I think they also dialed down the engine a bit for Q3 as well, following Kimi's turbo problems on Friday... This is a power track, downforce doesn't play too much to the advantage of Ferrari and Merc and RB, Renault and Williams were closer than before yesterday...

[Chene_Mostert]

Another encouraging message sent out by Mr Marchionne. He was criticised a lot in the past for putting too much pressure on the team, but I think he is a good boss man, don't be scared to criticize but also praise when necessary. Honda needs some criticism ATM instead of the continued fake positive spin on their situation.

[GPR-A duplicate2]

To be honest, I think they also dialed down the engine a bit for Q3 as well, following Kimi's turbo problems on Friday... This is a power track, downforce doesn't play too much to the advantage of Ferrari and Merc and RB, Renault and Williams were closer than before yesterday...

If downforce doesn't play too much to anyone's advantage here, then how was RB running so close to Merc and Ferrari? Are you suggesting Renault is in the same league as Merc and Ferrari in terms of PU? If downforce doesn't play too much to anyone's advantage, why was Williams, FI and Haas not in play here despite having the best PUs on the grid?

If you don't have great deal of downforce, then you are not at front.

[GPR-A duplicate2]

Another encouraging message sent out by Mr Marchionne. He was criticised a lot in the past for putting too much pressure on the team, but I think he is a good boss man, don't be scared to criticize but also praise when necessary.

Ben, any comments?

[Chene_Mostert]

I must say after 3 Races I'm impressed by the "novice" tech department at Ferrari they finally seem to have direction. Lets see if it maintains up to end June. If so we are sitting pretty.
I'm glad Merc got Allison.

[f1316]

Right, all the criticisms of Marchionne, the more horizontal structure, removal of Allison, a more Italian-centric team, look a bit premature now, don't they?

[Mansell89]

How many races will Raikonnen last?

He was utterly woeful yet again in the early stages, leaving himself drifting out of the picture at the front.

Gauntlet was laid down by Marchionni in China so I believe this may become an issue in the European season

[FLuidd]

I hope Raikkonen gets fired during the summer break and gets replaced by Grosjean, since Ferrari needs a reliable lieutenant for Vettel.

[nokivasara]

I wasn't really expecting him to continue next season regardless of results tbh; even if he won the world championship, that would be the ultimate way to bow out.

But it feels like the end of his career to me, so personally I always thought he was gone next year - not necessarily a reflection on his performance so far

( although on a different note, I do think he's been poor; might be controversial but he never convinced me as a Ferrari driver - even when he was winning the world championships I didn't feel like he was the guy eaking every ounce of performance out of the car - rather the McLaren drivers were the ones doing that - and it was always a disappointment for someone filling Schumacher's race boots).

I think it's last season too, he's been in F1 since 2001 and peaked early. 2003 and 2005 he was absolutely top notch. Nowadays he is still a good driver to have in the team. He brings in steady points and stays out of trouble, for the most part.
Kimi is 37 years old, of course Ferrari knows that he will lose some speed, they all do. Remember Coulthard when he was in RedBull, it was awful, Schumacher was also surprisingly bad in his comeback.
I can't recall any 37 year old (or older) driver from the last 20 years that has been on the same level as Kimi, so he is actually doing a very good job for a guy of his age.
But it's time to step down and make room for someone else, I'd love to see Grosjean in the Ferrari. The downside of having him is that he is also very touchy about how the car behaves, much like Kimi. On a good day GRO is among the fastest IMHO.

[bhall II]

Another encouraging message sent out by Mr Marchionne. He was criticised a lot in the past for putting too much pressure on the team, but I think he is a good boss man, don't be scared to criticize but also praise when necessary.

Ben, any comments?

History is written by the victors. (Take that for whatever it's worth.)

[PlatinumZealot]

The number one policy will be in full effect very soon. I dont know. But i think Vettel will be unstoppable if Ferrari keep developing. Kimi has been downtight slow but he is doing just enough to keep the Red team in front. A 1-4 always trumps a 2 - 3!