McLaren investigation (beating the dead horse? sorry...)

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Isn't the point simply that the Italian authorities are now dealing with the matter as it concerns Stepney & McCoughlin so they need to go through any evidence for themselves?

This isn't something aimed at McLaren, but at two ex-employees of the companies involved (TBH - I'm not even sure McCoughlin is being investigated yet).

I see it as a good thing - those two should be hauled through the courts.

You never know, it may even show McLaren in a better light than that portrayed by the FIA.

If the truth gets out, it will be for the greater good (even if the truth hurts ;))

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Belatti wrote: [Justice is subjective to the senses of the ones who define and "try to achieve" it.

Here you misunderstood me, I agree with the Judge (Williams is not guilty) but I was talking about The Italian D.A. (whatever that may be) and I thought he had NOT enough evidence Williams was to blame for his death. (Pay attention to my underlined words)



Simply: any backed up arguments about Ferrari have gotten away with the same are in the hands of the ones who control F1, but doesn´t want them to see the light. Why? They need Ferrari. They ARE Ferrari. Ferrari controls F1. It´s Bernies word: "Ferrari is 50% of Formula 1, the other teams are the other 50%".
Ferrari is the untouchable.
So, virtually, there are NO evidences you or me can see. Now, any other team makes a step in the wrong direction and the witch hunt will began. That´s for sure. It happened with Renault and with McLaren (in 2007 and 1999 - remember 3rd pedal issue). If you are clever and beat them, you are punished.

The ones that go against the king are revels and will be beheaded.
You P_O_L made me sound like Manchild. Maybe he was right after all.
Dude you have some serious deluded ideas about the world. Why not educate yourself a bit more on law and judicial systems before ranting away.

And accusing Ferrari of getting away with the same things others have done against the FIA rules without having ANY evidence or even the slightest example, applys to a certain psychological term: paranoid behaviour ;) The preferential treatment etc. etc. sounds a bit far fetched when you remember it took Ferrari 21 years to win a wdc title again in 2000. Last year it was practically given by lewis. In 2003 it was practically given by Juan Pablo Montoya. The engine rev limiter, one make tyre, it all was against Ferrari. So really, get a grip on yourself and start loving the Scuderia for being such a fantastic team who build their own engine inhouse.
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Well P_O_L, I won't argue your knowledge of law as its frankly of little interest to me outside of those rules put down out of fairness and common sense.
However I would challenge anyone on F1 trivia and if I get defeated I'll learn something, if I don't I can teach. So here's my gauntlet thrown down unto you...

Mentioned in Belatti's post are 2 systems,
(in 2007 and 1999 - remember 3rd pedal issue). If you are clever and beat them, you are punished.
if you can tell me what these two systems were and what they did then I will be more inclined to pay heed your point in detail. Of course if you don't you need only say and a large proportion of the forum would happily enlighten you.

I can understand if you think my suggestion is a little unfair but if anything it should reinforce the point that this site was setup for discussions of technology in Formula 1 and just about anything else, not the finer points of law and punishment.
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"Justice is subjective to the senses of the ones who define and "try to achieve" it."
Belatti

I had a lawyer for almost 30 years. He said something very similar to your thought. When I first meet him, visiting his office, he casually commented " Justice is the fad of the moment. " I thought this callous and cynical. On another day, about 27 years later, speaking with the same man on a small matter, he looked out of wise old eyes and smilingly commented; "Justice is the fad of the moment." On this occasion, having experienced a little, seen a little over those 27 years; I had to agree. So a wise man agrees with you Belatti - and so do I.

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Tom wrote:Well P_O_L, I won't argue your knowledge of law as its frankly of little interest to me outside of those rules put down out of fairness and common sense.
However I would challenge anyone on F1 trivia and if I get defeated I'll learn something, if I don't I can teach. So here's my gauntlet thrown down unto you...

Mentioned in Belatti's post are 2 systems,
(in 2007 and 1999 - remember 3rd pedal issue). If you are clever and beat them, you are punished.
if you can tell me what these two systems were and what they did then I will be more inclined to pay heed your point in detail. Of course if you don't you need only say and a large proportion of the forum would happily enlighten you.

I can understand if you think my suggestion is a little unfair but if anything it should reinforce the point that this site was setup for discussions of technology in Formula 1 and just about anything else, not the finer points of law and punishment.
Ahh, but the technological side also appeals to me, well unless F1 tech is getting ricidulous close to spec racing.

The 3rd brakepedal. First of all, that situation occured in and right after the first race of 1998, not 1999. It was a while since ive read the accurate facts but do correct me if im wrong.

Mclaren brought a car with a third brakepedal, denying at first but after a crash wich revealed the pedal, said it was to enhance the braking. AFter some investigation some people informed the FIA that the pedal wasnt used for braking, but for aiding traction. The FIA investigated it and after the Melbourne GP told Mclaren to remove it or face exlusion of the brasilian GP. Since Williams was also busy testing such a device the FIA wanted to act quickly. Charlie Whiting (FIA technical delegate) was quoted in Autosport:" MClarens explanation of how they used the device was not corresponding with our observations. They said it was used for braking into a corner. We noticed that the brake disc would start to glow red EXITING a corner, therefore emulating a form of traction control, wich was forbidden at that time." To me a very good explanation why that system was banned.
Clever, but not according to the rules. Iirc correctly Porsche used a similar device on their 911s at that time, exceot it worked automatically.

As for Belattis statement..it it such a broad saying it really doesnt deserve a reply. Il do a short one nevertheless. Justice and law in general today, is a huge evolution from the ancient romans to Napoleon Bonaparte. It was introduced to get rid of the inlfuence of the church and despotic will of kings, who did just that: define what is justice.

Today justice is a combination of thousands of laws and assurances. For instance EU law is supranational and all EU nations have to abide it even if it goes against their own national law system. If the Italians did something wich was outside EU rules, Williams, UK and the FIA couldv protested big time. If the italians where so despotic as Belatti makes them out to be, frank and patrcik would be thrown in jail. As it is they followed procedures and the judge deemed them not guilty of the charges. It is therefore very strange to hear that 'the italians'have done something wrong in the senna trial.

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Mclaren brought a car with a third brakepedal, denying at first but after a crash wich revealed the pedal, said it was to enhance the braking. AFter some investigation some people informed the FIA that the pedal wasnt used for braking, but for aiding traction.
Where did you "read" these 'accurate facts'?
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(I posted something and it's gone??)

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P_O_L wrote: Ahh, but the technological side also appeals to me, well unless F1 tech is getting ricidulous close to spec racing.

The 3rd brakepedal. First of all, that situation occured in and right after the first race of 1998, not 1999. It was a while since ive read the accurate facts but do correct me if im wrong.

Mclaren brought a car with a third brakepedal, denying at first but after a crash wich revealed the pedal, said it was to enhance the braking. AFter some investigation some people informed the FIA that the pedal wasnt used for braking, but for aiding traction. The FIA investigated it and after the Melbourne GP told Mclaren to remove it or face exlusion of the brasilian GP. Since Williams was also busy testing such a device the FIA wanted to act quickly. Charlie Whiting (FIA technical delegate) was quoted in Autosport:" MClarens explanation of how they used the device was not corresponding with our observations. They said it was used for braking into a corner. We noticed that the brake disc would start to glow red EXITING a corner, therefore emulating a form of traction control, wich was forbidden at that time." To me a very good explanation why that system was banned.
Clever, but not according to the rules. Iirc correctly Porsche used a similar device on their 911s at that time, exceot it worked automatically.
Ok P_O_L I will correct you as you are only partially right.

The Mclaren Third Brake or the Fiddle Brake was protested at the Brazilian GP of 1998. At this GP a succession of protest lead by Ferrari resulting in these brake systems developed by not only McLaren, but Williams and Jordan being banned. In an effort to ensure that McLaren were banned Ferrari claimed that the three teams did not comply with one or more of the rules concerning the prohibition of four-wheel steering, anti-lock and power brakes, and traction control and the requiremennts for the brake systems to have at least two seperate circuits operate by the same pedal. Talk about trying to cover effort aspect of the rules.

Sauber (who at the time had Ferrari engines) and Minardi (from Italy) lodged protest identical worded protests.

Despite the fact that McLaren had consulted Charlie Whiting on every apsect on their system, the race stewards banned the system on the basis that the primary purpose was steering and not braking.

Ferrari went onto to overstep the bounds of propriety by suggesting that the cars under protest infringed Article 2.3 of the rules and that the stewards should exclude the cars as there were of a construction which was dangerous. Ferrari were censured for this.

The fiddle brake had been in use since the middle of 1997, it was found when a photo was taken of the cockpit when Mika or David retired with an engine problems (and off the top of my head I can not remember who or when) and not a crash P_O_L, at the time McLaren were not on the pace of Ferrari so possible it was only protested in 1998 when they started beating Ferrari and winning.

This has not been the only time when a piece of technical wizardry, which when introduced was legal became banned when it was protested by a certain team.

- Beryllium in the early 2000
- Legal Tyres in 2003
- Mass Dampers in 2006

To name a few

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Actually thats quite accurate depending on your source. It not actually a form of traction control in the conventional sense of the term, the stystem was indeed braking individual wheels on the exit of a corner but it wasn't against the rules in any way when it was introduced.
To the best of the general public's knowledge the driver was able to select the wheel on the inside of a corner and while exiting brake that wheel and accelerate the other so the car would turn tighter. It's comparable to left foot braking except much further developed.
The Renault situation must be reffering to Mass Dampers which were allowed for a season and a half before the FIA inexplicably decided they were not a fair advantage and banned them mid season. The principles being to provide more or less weight towards the front depending on the car pitching.

However that was the right idea and we're actually having a 'Technical Discussion' here rather than arguing about law and politics. How long can that be kept up?

I promise to pay more attention to your post in future P_O_L and try harder to see your point of view.
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The Renault situation must be reffering to Mass Dampers which were allowed for a season and a half before the FIA inexplicably decided they were not a fair advantage and banned them mid season.
Just a quick clarification Tom, It was reported that Mclaren requested clarification regarding the mass damper and then subsequently tried it themselves but according to reports, did not manage to make it work. It was later vigorously pursued by a 'certain' team and the FIA subsequently decided it was an 'aerodynamic' device (yep, go figure) and banned it. Even disagreeing/over-ruling their own technical people in the process. This also prompted a certain angry Alonso (and rightly so) to comment that he no longer considered F1 a sport.
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P_O_L wrote: (1) Dude you have some serious deluded ideas about the world. Why not educate yourself a bit more on law and judicial systems before ranting away.

And accusing Ferrari of getting away with the same things others have done against the FIA rules without having ANY (2) evidence or even the slightest example, applys to a certain psychological term: paranoid behaviour ;) The preferential treatment etc. etc. sounds a bit far fetched when you remember it took Ferrari 21 years to win a wdc title again in 2000 (3). Last year it was practically given by lewis. In 2003 it was practically given by Juan Pablo Montoya. The engine rev limiter, one make tyre, it all was against Ferrari (4). So really, get a grip on yourself and start loving the Scuderia (5) for being such a fantastic team who build their own engine inhouse.
(1) I call those deluded ideas "my philisophy" (thank you Carlos). I´ll educate myself when I need to, as I already did when I got "justice problems". Otherwise I won´t waste time with the liars/lawers world

(2) There where evidences, the same evidences you have pointed out, and I´m not just accusing Ferrari, as I said, every team is the same regarding accusing rivals when they had the opportunity to.

(3) Till Bernie realized a winning Ferrari returns more millions than a winning McLaren or Williams.

(4) True, cause Bernie realized than a winning Ferrari for 5 years in a row returns less millions than 2 or 3 title contenders.

(5) I wont love the scuderia till they have a V12 or an Italian driver again :lol:
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I don't know if this long story will revive this thread, but it's juicy. :lol:

http://www.sportspromedia.com/bishop.htm

Formula One’s most famous editor Matt Bishop has had a nightmare start to his new public relations career at McLaren Mercedes

You couldn’t make this up
and believe it, we tried

The cozy relationship between sports journalists and the world of public relations took a nasty knock last month as Matt Bishop, arguably Formula One’s best known journalist, left his job as editor of F1 Racing magazine and decided to take the PR shilling at one of the sport’s top teams. But his newly-created job as director of communications at the McLaren Mercedes team straightaway pitched him into the middle of a tense and longstanding battle between team principal Ron Dennis and FIA president, Max Mosley. And in an amazing story, which you couldn’t make up, round one went to Mosley.

When F1 Racing’s editor-in-chief Matt Bishop announced he was taking a new job on 26th September 2007, it came as quite a shock, particularly as he was leaving to become director of communications at the McLaren Group, which owned the McLaren Mercedes F1 team. Most people wondered why Bishop would want to leave such a powerful job and take what was obviously a far less powerful and prestigious position. As editor of arguably the world’s biggest sports magazine, he was a very powerful man; he had been a staple on the

BusinessF1 magazine Power List since 2001. Now all that was threatened.

There was really only one answer – money. He may have enjoyed immense power as a journalist, but the pay was poor. The salary in his new job was closer to US$400,000 than the US$150,000 he had earned as a magazine editor.

When Bishop submitted his resignation to Peter Higham, the publishing director of Haymarket Publishing, the owner of F1 Racing, he asked to leave straight away. Higham refused and Bishop was told he would have to work out his three-month notice period in full. Higham had already had a bad week. A few days earlier, another star editor, Damien Smith, and F1’s best known writer, Nigel Roebuck, had also told him they were leaving. Higham was losing what were arguably his three top people, all in the same week. He told them all they must work their notices in full. Smith and Roebuck understood, but Bishop was bitter. Used to getting his own way, he couldn’t understand why Higham was being so trenchant.

Nonetheless, Bishop accepted his employer’s decision and prepared to work out his time even though he would have much preferred to have got on with his new job. As the news began to leak out, Higham announced that Bishop was leaving.

The terseness of the press release reflected Haymarket’s displeasure. Haymarket was stung at what it saw as disloyalty after 11 years. Its press release simply read: “It is announced that Matt Bishop will leave Haymarket, publisher of F1 Racing and Autosport, to become Head of Communications and Public Relations for the McLaren Group, effective January 2008.” But as far as Haymarket was concerned, from that moment on Bishop was a dead man and it wanted nothing to do with him. His job was advertised and after Bishop finished off the November issue of F1 Racing he was told to have nothing further to do with the magazine.

To make life as difficult as it could, Haymarket was prepared to pay him three months salary to do nothing. He was left twiddling his thumbs. He took the opportunity to get himself fit with visits to the gym at every opportunity – and there were many.

He lost a lot of weight, but after 11 years Bishop couldn’t sit still and do nothing. He started giving informal advice to Ron Dennis and liaising with the team. Although he was still at his desk at Haymarket, he effectively started working for McLaren. Dennis certainly needed the advice after the summer fiasco when his team was found guilty by the FIA of spying on Ferrari, fined US$100 million and excluded from the 2007 world championship.

Afterwards McLaren complained to the FIA about similar conduct by Renault. And Bishop went to work on the upcoming complaint to the FIA that the Renault team had spied on McLaren.

Sometime on Thursday 22nd November 2007, around a dozen key British journalists received an email from Bishop. The email was effectively an unofficial briefing from the McLaren Mercedes team on the upcoming hearing.

Although it was interesting enough, most of the content was already in the public domain. But what it did was sum up the McLaren case against Renault apparently very succinctly. It was designed to give McLaren a PR boost in the newspapers before the hearing and influence public opinion behind the team.

McLaren had actually taken its cue from Ferrari for this. All through its own hearings earlier in the year, Ferrari had skillfully briefed Italian journalists, who had printed stories undermining McLaren. The stories were reprinted 8 throughout the world. Both Bishop and Dennis hoped the same thing would happen after the email went out. Although it was an anonymous briefing, to give it credibility Bishop sent it out on his own Haymarket email address: ‘Matt.Bishop@haymarket.com’. That was no surprise as Bishop often sent emails to journalists updating them on Haymarket matters and his own extra curricular affairs. For example, a week later he sent out an email on behalf of another of his clients, an event called the Motor Sport Forum in Monaco. Bishop was paid US$10,000 to be its chairman and in that email he extolled the benefits of attending.

But the McLaren briefing, although it merely repeated public information, turned out to be highly controversial and infuriated Renault’s team principal, Flavio Briatore, because it was so inaccurate. In fact it was more than that, according to Briatore it was a “pack of lies” that Bishop had been given by McLaren to pass on to his journalist contacts.

Briatore was furious and consulted his lawyers. FIA president Max Mosley was also furious because he believed it undermined the upcoming hearing.

Bishop’s briefing stated that, 1) 33 files of confidential technical information belonging to McLaren were copied on to 11 floppy disks in March 2006, by engineer Phil Mackereth and were all loaded on to Renault computers in September 2007; 2) The 33 files contained more than 780 individual drawings outlining the blueprint of the 2006 and 2007 McLaren F1 cars; 3) The information was discussed by up to 18 Renault employees, including seven engineering bosses and heads of department, including chief designer Tim Densham; 4) Witness statements revealed the information was viewed on 11 Renault-owned computers.

The briefing further stated that McLaren was adamant that its rival Renault gained a “clear benefit and unfair advantage” from the use of the intellectual property. The briefing stated that McLaren’s solicitors had had to forcibly remind the FIA about how seriously they were taking the matter. And it stated the McLaren team was sure that the information was used, to the Renault team’s benefit.

Bishop quoted McLaren’s solicitors Baker & McKenzie as saying: “It is clear that McLaren’s confidential design information was knowingly, deliberately and widely disseminated and discussed within the Renault F1 design and engineering team, thereby providing them [the Renault F1 design and engineering team] with a clear benefit and unfair advantage.”

And according to the briefing, Baker & Mckenzie was upset at the way Renault had dealt with the matter. The solicitors complained of a ‘cavalier attitude’ on the part of senior Renault F1 personnel during the investigation, and that submissions from Renault staff were “incomplete” and “misleading” and “contradictory”.

The email had the desired effect. Articles virtually repeating the briefing verbatim were published throughout the English media and duly picked up across the world. But as it was mostly known stuff it caused nothing like the sensation that Ferrari’s leaks had a few months earlier. Still it pleased McLaren team principal Ron Dennis. It was exactly what he had employed Bishop for: to get out what he believed was the truth.

In the articles that appeared the following morning, journalists wrote that the information had come from a ‘leaked memo’, which was untrue in itself. The leak was generally seen as an attempt by the team to dispel the impression within the sport that the illegal transfer of technical information from McLaren to Renault was of a lesser order of importance than McLaren’s possession of Ferrari secrets.

The Times newspaper was the only one that was sceptical and called the tactics “crude”. It said: “The leak of the memo from McLaren and its timing is as significant as what it contains. The Woking-based team have resorted to radical measures to pile on the pressure, not just on Renault but on the FIA in what looks like a fairly crude attempt to try to prevent the WMSC [FIA World Motorsport Council] brushing this affair under the carpet.”

Ed Gorman of The Times wrote the most penetrating comment. He questioned McLaren’s motives and called the briefing “counter-productive”. He was amazingly prescient when he commented: “However, only time will tell whether this could prove counter-productive. Max Mosley, the president of the FIA who has never seen eye-to-eye with Ron Dennis, the McLaren team principal, may take a dim view of McLaren’s decision to leak information from their confidential submission to the WMSC. There are also other powerful voices in the sport who do not buy McLaren’s version of this affair.”

Gorman was the only journalist who read it right.

But Gorman only got half the story; he failed to spot the errors in the briefing. Someone at McLaren, and Bishop himself, was being extremely naive and the briefing was packed with some very basic flaws. The claim that 780 individual drawings and the entire technical blueprint of the 2006 and 2007 McLaren F1 cars had been stolen was patently ridiculous, even to someone with only a basic knowledge of computers. Almost everyone knows that an old-style floppy disk has a maximum storage capacity of 1.2 megabytes. The average illustration is usually at least two megabytes. Anyone with the notion that “the entire technical blueprint of the 2006 and 2007 McLaren F1 cars” could be squeezed down to 26.4 megabytes was on some other planet. Surprisingly this tosh was repeated seemingly without question by at least 12 British journalists, including such redoubtables as Jonathan Noble, arguably the most knowledgeable motorsport journalist writing today. Noble and others simply took what Bishop said at face value. It was astonishingly naive.

But as soon as it was published it raised the eyebrows of Haymarket’s new publishing director, Peter Higham. Higham formerly ran LAT Photographic, a Haymarket subsidiary, and knew his megabytes from his gigabytes. But he thought little more of it at the time.

One leading editor was also surprised to read the story in his own publication when he returned from holiday. He said: “It is no credit on any of us (as journalists) that we made no attempt to verify the facts contained in this briefing.” That particular editor says he will never trust anything from Bishop again.

The briefing and its wide dissemination had totally the opposite effect that Bishop had intended. It threw Richard Woods, the FIA’s director of communications into a state of apoplexy after he was leant on by Max Mosley to do something about it. In some ways Bishop had played right into Woods’ hands. Woods had already targeted the former editor for some ‘treatment’ after he joined McLaren. From being an FIA favoured son, he had gone to the top of its ‘enemies list’ maintained by Woods. Especially when he had turned F1 Racing overnight into a pro-Dennis, anti-Mosley magazine. The briefing delivered him straight into Woods’ arms.

Meanwhile, Flavio Briatore fumed at Mosley and told him he wanted something done. Woods duly threatened McLaren and on Wednesday 5th December, ahead of the hearing in Monaco, it was forced to issue a most embarrassing communiqué effectively distancing itself from its own director of communications. It was extraordinary and unprecedented. Journalists couldn’t believe it.

The statement from McLaren was totally humiliating and admitted the most glaring inaccuracies. In a statement this time put out by Ellen Kolby, the team’s communications manager, the team admitted the briefing was totally untruthful. It admitted that of the six facts in the briefing, all six were wrong. It said that it was not 18 Renault employees that had viewed the McLaren data but nine. It said that it had not been uploaded to 11 computers but just one and only two Renault staff had viewed that. The greatest error of all was to state that 780 technical drawings had been stole by Mackereth and put on the floppy disks. The true figure was 18 drawings.

But the biggest lie was that Mackereth had stolen the “entire technical blueprint of the 2006 and 2007 McLaren car”. In reality all he had taken was a textual summary of the 2007 car of little use to anyone. To describe it as the whole technical blueprint had been “just stupid”.

McLaren ended its release by saying: “We are pleased to assist the FIA in making the above clear in advance of tomorrow’s hearing.”

When Peter Higham read this, it was his turn to be apoplectic. Haymarket executives had already been “thrashed” on the telephone by Richard Woods. What Bishop had done threatened Haymarket’s whole relationship with the FIA on which it depended.

Higham was furious with Bishop and in that moment the 11-year relationship between Bishop and Haymarket was destroyed. Anthony Rowlinson, a former colleague of Bishop, said: “It was one of the tightest in Formula One.” Insiders say that there is now no relationship and that may be a problem when Bishop starts his new job at McLaren. But Bishop had been lucky, or at least thought he had. McLaren didn’t say that he was the author of the briefing and admitted it had been behind it. The FIA also kept silent about his identity. Fewer than a dozen journalists knew it had come from him, and as they had been duped were none too keen to publicise it. But Ed Gorman at The Times told his colleague Kevin Eason all about it. Gorman had been the only journalist to be critical of the briefing and he thought it all highly amusing. Eason is a former Formula One journalist for The Times who now writes a well-read sports column every day in the newspaper called ‘The Insider’. The Insider is basically a gossip column with a sometimes scurrilous edge.

Eason wasn’t party to any arrangement to keep Bishop’s name secret.

So on 7th December he named Bishop as the author of the briefing. Eason called the affair an ‘Agatha Christie potboiler’ and said “it would not take a Hercule Poirot to deduce that the briefing was inspired by McLaren, given that Bishop joins them next month as communications director”. Eason added: “Bishop stood corrected by his own team before his backside has even hit his new office chair, while Haymarket must be wondering what he was doing briefing on their email system, dragging them into the row.” Eason wasn’t being malicious to him, it was just another story and he wasn’t aware of the sensation it would cause.

When he was outed, Bishop was in Monte Carlo where he had just completed his two days as chairman of the Motor Sport Forum. He was hanging on to attend the FIA Awards Gala that evening. He was furious that he had been named, believing it had been agreed that his name would not be mentioned. But Eason was seemingly unaware of that, or deliberately ignored it.

However the story was not over. As Bishop unpacked his tuxedo at the Meridien Beach Plaza Hotel where he was staying he took a call from Richard Woods on his mobile. Woods told him he was no longer welcome at the gala and that his invitation was withdrawn. It was totally humiliating especially as Bishop had in previous years been an honoured guest and one of the few journalists to receive an invitation. In past years he had also been paid to compere the event. And Woods was not finished. He made sure that everyone at the gala knew that he had banned Bishop, including Kevin Eason who was by pure coincidence a guest. Apparently guests at the gala discussed nothing else. It was duly reported in Eason’s The Insider column on Monday morning. Humiliation complete.

Now as the dust settles it appears that much of the action in the 2008 Formula One season will be off the track. In one corner is Max Mosley and his PR rotweiller, Richard Woods. In the other are Ron Dennis and his novice mouthpiece Matt Bishop.

As one very experienced journalist said: “It’s easy to predict the outcome of that battle isn’t it?”
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Very nice story Ciro... I wondered at the time, about the ability to fit so many drawings into such little media space. I actually assumed they had said floppy disk in error (laziness) and had meant CDR or DVD..

Matt Bishop has definitely taken a huge knock to his credibility on this, something no PR person needs. It's the worst thing a PR person can have happen basically.

(having said all that - whoever wrote this article did a good job of painting Bishop to be a bad egg... I'm sure he would dispute some of the events mentioned)

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great read cheers
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My first thought is alot of that story is probably true but it was very well written to portray Bishop baddly, particularely the last line:
Now as the dust settles it appears that much of the action in the 2008 Formula One season will be off the track. In one corner is Max Mosley and his PR rotweiller, Richard Woods. In the other are Ron Dennis and his novice mouthpiece Matt Bishop.
Calling one journo a Rotweiller and the other a Mouthpiece when frankly they're as slimey and vicious as one another seems biased to some degree. I just read a brilliant quote on the QI website:
The human brain is the most complex object in the known Universe, with as many neurons as there are trees in the Amazon rain-forest. The number of possible connections in a single human brain is said to exceed the number of particles in the universe. But what are we doing with this extraordinary organ between our ears? Reading Hello is what.
This sums the whole sorrid affair up exactly. We are far more concerned with gossip than we are expanding our own knowledge and lives.
Murphy's 9th Law of Technology:
Tell a man there are 300 million stars in the universe and he'll believe you. Tell him a bench has wet paint on it and he'll have to touch to be sure.