Renault Sport Racing and McLaren Racing are pleased to announce they have agreed an engine supply partnership for the 2018, 2019 and 2020 seasons. The deal will see Renault Sport Racing supply McLaren with Formula 1 power units, while also establishing a close working relationship with McLaren’s engineers and technicians.
nah doubt it. but 5th isn't impossiblefellowhoodlums wrote: ↑13 May 2017, 16:597th is darn impressive. It's Qualy I appreciate. Alonso saying they knew they had good pace in advance.
Best of the rest, behind 2 Merc, 2 Ferrari, 2 Red Bull
Does Monaco give hope of a possible podium for Button?
I love that camera angle
#aerogollumturbof1 wrote: YOU SHALL NOT......STALLLLL!!!
Indeed the chasis itself is still not as fast as the top trio, but by my estimation it isnt more than 0,5 secondish behind Mercedes. Alonso lost only a fraction in the middle sector in comparison with Ferrari and Mercedes.
sorry wrong calculationproteus wrote: ↑13 May 2017, 18:36Indeed the chasis itself is still not as fast as the top trio, but by my estimation it isnt more than 0,5 secondish behind Mercedes. Alonso lost only a fraction in the middle sector in comparison with Ferrari and Mercedes.
I must say the chasis is in good shape (and dont forget how much less it was tested), but i must eat my words as well and admit that Honda delivered as well. They still need to find 3-4 tenths per sector by the engine alone, but if they start delivering like they did today, than something is moving in the right direction. I just seriously hope that the engine doesnt explode in first couple of laps, i hope it lasts to the end and enables them to score some points. Even though the season started very bad, they were close to get to the points twice but lost them because of the engine expiration. Ihreally really hope it goes to the end.
How do you differentiate between running high downforce and drag (good in the corners, bad on the straights) vs how well the engine is performing?proteus wrote: ↑13 May 2017, 18:36Indeed the chasis itself is still not as fast as the top trio, but by my estimation it isnt more than 0,5 secondish behind Mercedes. Alonso lost only a fraction in the middle sector in comparison with Ferrari and Mercedes.
I must say the chasis is in good shape (and dont forget how much less it was tested), but i must eat my words as well and admit that Honda delivered as well. They still need to find 3-4 tenths per sector by the engine alone, but if they start delivering like they did today, than something is moving in the right direction. I just seriously hope that the engine doesnt explode in first couple of laps, i hope it lasts to the end and enables them to score some points. Even though the season started very bad, they were close to get to the points twice but lost them because of the engine expiration. Ihreally really hope it goes to the end.
They actually aren't that far from being 200bhp down. From speed trap data, their deficit is estimated in at least 120bhp. Likely more considering that they probably run lower drag than other teams. Also, calculations don't work linearly like you mentioned, otherwise I could be 1000bhp down (also known as no power at all) and be only 20s down on everybody else.mrluke wrote: ↑13 May 2017, 20:20How do you differentiate between running high downforce and drag (good in the corners, bad on the straights) vs how well the engine is performing?proteus wrote: ↑13 May 2017, 18:36Indeed the chasis itself is still not as fast as the top trio, but by my estimation it isnt more than 0,5 secondish behind Mercedes. Alonso lost only a fraction in the middle sector in comparison with Ferrari and Mercedes.
I must say the chasis is in good shape (and dont forget how much less it was tested), but i must eat my words as well and admit that Honda delivered as well. They still need to find 3-4 tenths per sector by the engine alone, but if they start delivering like they did today, than something is moving in the right direction. I just seriously hope that the engine doesnt explode in first couple of laps, i hope it lasts to the end and enables them to score some points. Even though the season started very bad, they were close to get to the points twice but lost them because of the engine expiration. Ihreally really hope it goes to the end.
Ferrari were much faster than Mercedes through the speed traps, is that because they have much more power?
Its pretty unlikely that Mclaren are losing over 1sec per lap due to the PU. 80bhp kers was always quoted as 0.4s per lap so they would need to be around 200bhp down for the whole lap to lose 1s. I know it is popular to bash Honda but they aren't that short of power.
