There would be no PU fees if Honda makes Williams their works team. Ferrari doesn't have any correlation problems with their wind tunnel anymore i guess that's evident by this season.
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Renault Sport Racing and McLaren Racing are pleased to announce they have agreed an engine supply partnership for the 2018, 2019 and 2020 seasons. The deal will see Renault Sport Racing supply McLaren with Formula 1 power units, while also establishing a close working relationship with McLaren’s engineers and technicians.
There would be no PU fees if Honda makes Williams their works team. Ferrari doesn't have any correlation problems with their wind tunnel anymore i guess that's evident by this season.
Lucky wrote: ↑20 Jun 2017, 14:41Is Porsche contemplating a move to F1?
http://en.f1i.com/news/271193-porsche-c ... ve-f1.html
When asked by GPUpdate.net if Mercedes was open to supplying McLaren in 2018, Wolff replied: "This is not our priority at the moment.
more: http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/3547 ... ren-honda/
As close to a yes as I think we'll get at present. I mean of course it's not their priority, there's the small matter of their own team!!HPD wrote: ↑20 Jun 2017, 21:32Mclaren Mercedes (Chinese story)
When asked by GPUpdate.net if Mercedes was open to supplying McLaren in 2018, Wolff replied: "This is not our priority at the moment.
more: http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/3547 ... ren-honda/
Still, McLaren are capable of creating a great chassis where Williams are not because they lack resources first and foremost. Just look at Red Bull last year, how powerful they were with their great chassis and inferior Renault PU. Just imagine RB with Ferrari or Merc engine last year. They could've actually fought for the title. It's obvious why Merc and Ferrari didn't want to give RB an engine.fellowhoodlums wrote: ↑21 Jun 2017, 00:18I can only see it as being for one year if at all. Do you think Merc are gonna let a supplied team beat them? They'll get what Williams get and that's a spec before their own engine.
I have read claire Williams explanation about Honda PU. She says with merc PU we were 4th why we swap PU and go back 9th. Like I said Williams must change their approach their mentality. Because they have any expectation from their chassis. Otherwise she couldn't talk this way. We see for long time they could not made good chasis and don't show any sign to try to do that. I think this is why pat Symonds leave them.Stormy wrote: ↑21 Jun 2017, 03:54Still, McLaren are capable of creating a great chassis where Williams are not because they lack resources first and foremost. Just look at Red Bull last year, how powerful they were with their great chassis and inferior Renault PU. Just imagine RB with Ferrari or Merc engine last year. They could've actually fought for the title. It's obvious why Merc and Ferrari didn't want to give RB an engine.fellowhoodlums wrote: ↑21 Jun 2017, 00:18I can only see it as being for one year if at all. Do you think Merc are gonna let a supplied team beat them? They'll get what Williams get and that's a spec before their own engine.
#aerogollumturbof1 wrote: YOU SHALL NOT......STALLLLL!!!
But you left out the good part..HPD wrote: ↑20 Jun 2017, 21:32Mclaren Mercedes (Chinese story)
When asked by GPUpdate.net if Mercedes was open to supplying McLaren in 2018, Wolff replied: "This is not our priority at the moment.
more: http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/3547 ... ren-honda/
Eventually you have to stop waiting for the impossible and act. F1 doesn't wait around for anyone and if Honda really had this miracle engine they would have produced the engine in Canada. McLaren also have next years car to think about and the guys back at the factory will want to start working on that if they haven't already. They will be the ones that need to know the most what engine they are getting next year so they can start working on it immediately.Andres125sx wrote: ↑21 Jun 2017, 12:05If I was McLaren I would have contacted Mercedes and I could have even promised I´ll use their PU next season, but that does not mean McLaren has made the decision yet. You cannot contact a different manufacturer saying "if Honda can solve the problems I´ll stay with them, but if not, I want you to give me a good PU". Nosense.
I think, and hope, McLaren is doing their homework so they´re preparing any alternative to be able to make the correct decision when neccessary, and that does include a good relationship with Mercedes just in case you want their PU again. But that does not mean they will use their PU next season for sure, far from that
At least that´s my take on this, rennouncing to Honda before they see how the new PU performs would be utterly stupid. Any reason to cope with three seasons of problems and when Honda finally have the freedom to solve the problems of their completely new 2017 PU, sign a contract with Mercedes just weeks/days before Honda can show the perfomance of their new PU? Complete nosense
I know many of you are frustrated with Honda, but to me this would be complete nosense by McLaren part
Sorry but I can´t see any logic in this. Any reason it should have been ready for Canada and that would have been good but if it´s ready for Baku it´s bad?RedNEO wrote: ↑21 Jun 2017, 12:44Eventually you have to stop waiting for the impossible and act. F1 doesn't wait around for anyone and if Honda really had this miracle engine they would have produced the engine in Canada.Andres125sx wrote: ↑21 Jun 2017, 12:05If I was McLaren I would have contacted Mercedes and I could have even promised I´ll use their PU next season, but that does not mean McLaren has made the decision yet. You cannot contact a different manufacturer saying "if Honda can solve the problems I´ll stay with them, but if not, I want you to give me a good PU". Nosense.
I think, and hope, McLaren is doing their homework so they´re preparing any alternative to be able to make the correct decision when neccessary, and that does include a good relationship with Mercedes just in case you want their PU again. But that does not mean they will use their PU next season for sure, far from that
At least that´s my take on this, rennouncing to Honda before they see how the new PU performs would be utterly stupid. Any reason to cope with three seasons of problems and when Honda finally have the freedom to solve the problems of their completely new 2017 PU, sign a contract with Mercedes just weeks/days before Honda can show the perfomance of their new PU? Complete nosense
I know many of you are frustrated with Honda, but to me this would be complete nosense by McLaren part
Alonso left Ferrari because he was tired of fighting for second. I can´t see how McLaren-Mercedes would be better or it would motivate Alonso to stay.
