2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

[RedNEO]

Yup. The original plan was to start the season with an engine that has them in the top 5 atleast. So until they get an engine that can do that then this season has not started.

[godlameroso]

Magnussen, Perez, and now Vandoorne, rookies that have had their carrers nearly destroyed by McLaren because they didn't stomp their teammates into the ground like everyone expected them to.

Nonsense and I knew you would get it wrong. Perez wasn't a rookie after 2 years at Sauber before joining McLaren.

Magnusen is doing alright for himself at the moment so harldy has been destroyed.

Vandoorn simply isn't doing a good enough job. We can physically see that he isn't driving well.

No idea why I even got involved in such a ridiculous comment.

You have to read all the words for things to make sense. Perez and Magnussen will both admit that McLaren was tough on them mentally, that it rattled their confidence in themselves. I'm glad they found their place, racing for McLaren didn't help them though.

[godlameroso]

Is it THE Upgrade they're bringing for Austria or just another Step to Prep for it? Whatever Alonso tested on Friday was a normal Upgrade. And that's what they want to bring to Austria right?

The Season starts whenever they introduce the big Upgrade that is supposed to Fix the Engine.

The last quarter of the season, these are parts to guide that development, which can bring some performance here and now.

[Jolle]

Magnussen, Perez, and now Vandoorne, rookies that have had their carrers nearly destroyed by McLaren because they didn't stomp their teammates into the ground like everyone expected them to.

Nonsense and I knew you would get it wrong. Perez wasn't a rookie after 2 years at Sauber before joining McLaren.

Magnusen is doing alright for himself at the moment so harldy has been destroyed.

Vandoorn simply isn't doing a good enough job. We can physically see that he isn't driving well.

No idea why I even got involved in such a ridiculous comment.

You have to read all the words for things to make sense. Perez and Magnussen will both admit that McLaren was tough on them mentally, that it rattled their confidence in themselves. I'm glad they found their place, racing for McLaren didn't help them though.

To me it feels like McLaren is hunting for “the next big star” after Hakkinnen, Räikkönen and Hamilton, but MAG, PER and VAN aren’t...

[godlameroso]

They are very good drivers, but Alonso is a once in a generation talent. Hamilton on his best day is unstoppable but he has bad days. Even when Alonso has bad days and bad cars he can still fight for the championship. No one else has been able to take a fight to the end with a car that's almost a second off the pace like he has. When Vettel tried, every other word was a frustrated profanity.

[RedNEO]

Magnussen, Perez, and now Vandoorne, rookies that have had their carrers nearly destroyed by McLaren because they didn't stomp their teammates into the ground like everyone expected them to.

Nonsense and I knew you would get it wrong. Perez wasn't a rookie after 2 years at Sauber before joining McLaren.

Magnusen is doing alright for himself at the moment so harldy has been destroyed.

Vandoorn simply isn't doing a good enough job. We can physically see that he isn't driving well.

No idea why I even got involved in such a ridiculous comment.

You have to read all the words for things to make sense. Perez and Magnussen will both admit that McLaren was tough on them mentally, that it rattled their confidence in themselves. I'm glad they found their place, racing for McLaren didn't help them though.

Without McLaren they wouldn't even be in F1.

[RedNEO]

Nonsense and I knew you would get it wrong. Perez wasn't a rookie after 2 years at Sauber before joining McLaren.

Magnusen is doing alright for himself at the moment so harldy has been destroyed.

Vandoorn simply isn't doing a good enough job. We can physically see that he isn't driving well.

No idea why I even got involved in such a ridiculous comment.

You have to read all the words for things to make sense. Perez and Magnussen will both admit that McLaren was tough on them mentally, that it rattled their confidence in themselves. I'm glad they found their place, racing for McLaren didn't help them though.

To me it feels like McLaren is hunting for “the next big star” after Hakkinnen, Räikkönen and Hamilton, but MAG, PER and VAN aren’t...

The juries still out on Van. If we look at stroll he's been able to transform his season in a couple of races.

[godlameroso]

Let's see what happens next race, the second half of the lap takes some real manly driving to be fast. Turns 4 through 8 are going to be insane with the added downforce. With barely a touch of the brakes.

[Soichiro]

Is it THE Upgrade they're bringing for Austria or just another Step to Prep for it? Whatever Alonso tested on Friday was a normal Upgrade. And that's what they want to bring to Austria right?

The Season starts whenever they introduce the big Upgrade that is supposed to Fix the Engine.

Yes Austria is the "intermediate" update but should be a notable step forward (more than Barcelona). The "big" upgrade or the "End of 2016 Mercedes level power" is supposed to be introduced at Spa. As I understand it.

[etusch]

On paper it’s a good strategy,” team boss Eric Boullier told Britain’s Sky.
“If you can run a (different) engine for the time being until Honda is competitive, then why not? This is one of the various scenarios we may have considered,” he added.
Mercedes’ Toto Wolff said in Baku that the issue of McLaren’s 2018 engine supplier needs to be resolved by around the end of the summer.
Boullier admitted the decision is “a question of weeks” away.
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[marvin78]

So let others help devlope the PU in another car and grab it back when it is good enough. And Honda should play along with such a stupid game?

[diffuser]

Yup. The original plan was to start the season with an engine that has them in the top 5 atleast. So until they get an engine that can do that then this season has not started.

This will be top 5!

[ZakB]

So let others help devlope the PU in another car and grab it back when it is good enough. And Honda should play along with such a stupid game?

I think they will. Honda doesn't have to pay McLaren 100+ million yearly, which is wasted money because what's the point of having Alonso in the car, while the engine is losing seconds every lap. The McLaren shareholders will provide the team with the necessary budget, so it's all good and eventually we will see Honda come back to McLaren, hopefully with a new title sponsor, which will be easier to find if you're fighting for podiums.

[Gerhardsa]

So let others help devlope the PU in another car and grab it back when it is good enough. And Honda should play along with such a stupid game?

Who will you put your money on to win a championship(when the engine is on par with Ferrari and Merc)? Sauber or McLaren?

[HPD]

On paper it’s a good strategy,” team boss Eric Boullier told Britain’s Sky.
“If you can run a (different) engine for the time being until Honda is competitive, then why not? This is one of the various scenarios we may have considered,” he added.
Mercedes’ Toto Wolff said in Baku that the issue of McLaren’s 2018 engine supplier needs to be resolved by around the end of the summer.
Boullier admitted the decision is “a question of weeks” away.
Gptoday's news

This is possible, but if they work in 2019 or 2020. Mclaren must pay the engines, pay the driver's wages, and the 100 million euros will not exist. Honda could work with redbull without problems.

Not a bad idea for Honda