2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

[Lucky]

Van should shut his trap and drive cause in my opinion the PU is better than his driving!

Worse than Honda there is nothing

[Lucky]

[RedNEO]

[diffuser]

Van should shut his trap and drive cause in my opinion the PU is better than his driving!

Worse than Honda there is nothing

I don't want to pick on Van cause he's a rookie but If I had to bet on which will get better faster Honda PU or Van's
driving ...my money would be on the Honda PU.

[diffuser]

https://i.imgflip.com/1s6ex0.jpg

What part of "THERE ARE NO PLANS" don't you understand ?

[etusch]

I am not hopefull about Van Doorne but inside me there is a voice says maybe he can finish front of Alo ? ( I think this comment very deserve to be rated negative )

[RedNEO]

https://i.imgflip.com/1s6ex0.jpg

What part of "THERE ARE NO PLANS" don't you understand ?

Keep rating my posts negative it only proves my point

[diffuser]

http://ipic.su/img/img7/fs/Snimok.1499521824.png

Interesting note on those top speeds... Few matched the Q1 tops speeds, were they don't normally have the PU turned up. The exceptions were Perez, the McLarens, The Mercs and RAI. If you add the 5 that did't make it out of Q1, still half the field had they highest speeds at the "T" in Q1. Tows ?

Really puts the value "Top speed" statistic in a questionable state. At least for Austria. They should also have average of the top 3 for each driver. Would have less of a skew.

[RedNEO]

http://ipic.su/img/img7/fs/Snimok.1499521824.png

Interesting note on those top speeds... Few matched the Q1 tops speeds, were they don't normally have the PU turned up. The exceptions were Perez, the McLarens, The Mercs and RAI. If you add the 5 that did't make it out of Q1, still half the field had they highest speeds at the "T" in Q1. Tows ?

Really puts the value "Top speed" statistic in a questionable state. At least for Austria. They should also have average of the top 3 for each driver. Would have less of a skew.

I wonder if it was the other way round and the new spec showed to be faster in the speed traps if you'd still be fighting the data so hard but anyway

[ZakB]

It could also cause by a bad exit from Vandoorne.

[Lucky]

I don't want to pick on Van cause he's a rookie but If I had to bet on which will get better faster Honda PU or Van's
driving ...my money would be on the Honda PU.

Give spare cash on charity

Honda shame of the whole world

[diffuser]

http://ipic.su/img/img7/fs/Snimok.1499521824.png

Interesting note on those top speeds... Few matched the Q1 tops speeds, were they don't normally have the PU turned up. The exceptions were Perez, the McLarens, The Mercs and RAI. If you add the 5 that did't make it out of Q1, still half the field had they highest speeds at the "T" in Q1. Tows ?

Really puts the value "Top speed" statistic in a questionable state. At least for Austria. They should also have average of the top 3 for each driver. Would have less of a skew.

I wonder if it was the other way round and the new spec showed to be faster in the speed traps if you'd still be fighting the data so hard but anyway

I've been pretty consistent with my view on both the bhp comments and Speed traps. You have to take both with a grain of salt.

ZakB is right, if ALO carries more speed out of turn 1(lets say 5km), hits the apex better and is on the accelerator sooner(lets say 1 sec). It leaves the PU in Van's car 5KM more to make up and 1 less second to do it in. Not to mention that they're probably not going fast enough out of the 1st corner to go full throttle for another couple of seconds (so has more power but can't use it for that time). The speed trap is about 600 - 700 meters from the corner, whole straight is 750M, nowhere near the 2-3KM straights of Baku.

if you look at the top speeds in each sector http://www.fia.com/file/59512/download?token=tyZDB7Az

You'll see that Van is 2 KM faster on average in every sector.

[diffuser]

I edited my post and it didn't make it forward.

ZakB is right, if ALO carries more speed out of turn 1(lets say 5km), hits the apex better and is on the accelerator sooner(lets say 1 sec). It leaves the PU in Van's car 5KM more to make up and 1 less second to do it in. Not to mention that they're probably not going fast enough out of the 1st corner to go full throttle for another couple of seconds (so has more power but can't use it for that time). The speed trap is about 600 - 700 meters from the corner, whole straight is 750M, nowhere near the 2-3KM straights of Baku.

if you look at the top speeds in each sector http://www.fia.com/file/59512/download?token=tyZDB7Az

You'll see that Van is 2 KM faster on average in every sector.

So you're right you can't change the data. You can look at other data though.

[Sayeman]

Can't they just give vandoorne's engine to fernando? Teams give number 2 driver's wings and other body parts to number 1 driver whenever number 1 drivers' are damaged.
Meanwhile Renault is changing MGU-H in 3 of it's cars, looks like the new architecture is causing both companies a lot of trouble.

[RedNEO]

I edited my post and it didn't make it forward.

ZakB is right, if ALO carries more speed out of turn 1(lets say 5km), hits the apex better and is on the accelerator sooner(lets say 1 sec). It leaves the PU in Van's car 5KM more to make up and 1 less second to do it in. Not to mention that they're probably not going fast enough out of the 1st corner to go full throttle for another couple of seconds (so has more power but can't use it for that time). The speed trap is about 600 - 700 meters from the corner, whole straight is 750M, nowhere near the 2-3KM straights of Baku.

if you look at the top speeds in each sector http://www.fia.com/file/59512/download?token=tyZDB7Az

You'll see that Van is 2 KM faster on average in every sector.

So you're right you can't change the data. You can look at other data though.

What are you basing Alonso carrying more speed out of corners on?