signed.McL-H wrote: ↑20 Jul 2017, 16:25https://www.change.org/p/federation-int ... ormula-one
Guys, if you are against the halo, sign the petition to let them know. I normally don't participate in these petitions, but this is one I think is important for our sport. Also, please share this link to as many people possible.
Perez's wheel detached from the car when he hit the barriers in Azerbaijan.Manoah2u wrote: ↑20 Jul 2017, 16:25Well color me surprised.
This actually gets mandated? Why on earth?
Wheels don't come off. simple as that. The Henry Surtees crash was very rare but if i recall correctly, mainly the cause because there was not a similar application to wheel tethers like there are in F1 today. In other words, that wheel never would have come off today, and so no wheel will come loose
F1 wheels don't come off anymore - period. They are brutally penalized should they come off, so apart from the rules in itself, it's very 'unrewarding' if they can come off - somehow.
So why on earth mount some hideous flawed device that gets drivers dizzy, hampers their visibility which then causes unneccesary and unknown new dangers, for a 'theoretical danger'
that in all reality can NOT happen anymore.
and as i've said a million times by now. the bianchi crash is irrelevant in this as the harm inflicted on him would have had zero change with the halo device - it might even have been worse concidering the halo device would have been planted into his helmet with that force and speed.
agreed. that's what i've been suspecting for a while too.
Also did Webber's in nurburgring 2013.TankMarvin wrote: ↑20 Jul 2017, 16:33Perez's wheel detached from the car when he hit the barriers in Azerbaijan.Manoah2u wrote: ↑20 Jul 2017, 16:25Well color me surprised.
This actually gets mandated? Why on earth?
Wheels don't come off. simple as that. The Henry Surtees crash was very rare but if i recall correctly, mainly the cause because there was not a similar application to wheel tethers like there are in F1 today. In other words, that wheel never would have come off today, and so no wheel will come loose
F1 wheels don't come off anymore - period. They are brutally penalized should they come off, so apart from the rules in itself, it's very 'unrewarding' if they can come off - somehow.
So why on earth mount some hideous flawed device that gets drivers dizzy, hampers their visibility which then causes unneccesary and unknown new dangers, for a 'theoretical danger'
that in all reality can NOT happen anymore.
and as i've said a million times by now. the bianchi crash is irrelevant in this as the harm inflicted on him would have had zero change with the halo device - it might even have been worse concidering the halo device would have been planted into his helmet with that force and speed.
Contracts are used to protect somebody from a lawsuit. U put the clause in it, which says "racing under youre own responsability" and it is a done deal for me. No more problems with liability to be feared off. Any driver that doesnt want to sign, well show them the doors, in the end those large sums of money will allways win them over no matter how u put it.Manoah2u wrote: ↑20 Jul 2017, 16:34agreed. that's what i've been suspecting for a while too.
something however tells me that this is going to get banned after the first race.
why?
drivers who have tried this already said they get dizzy [yes, ALSO the aeroscreen makes them dizzy],
they have said it blocks their view,
and it is a safety concern for escaping the car when upside down.
ugly is no reason unfortunately but offcourse it is a fact that it's absolutely HIDEOUS.
atleast the aeroscreen visually is somewhat 'ok'. well, the board member that made his own design goes for the win, but well, this is the FIA.
so we're going to get drivers that get dizzy and can't do much laps. qually is going to be a mess.
then we get the race and drivers are going to stop before halfway through as they are going to crash because they lose their focus due to getting dizzy. then they're going to slam into other drivers 'i did not see him' because of the halo. and because of that we're going to get cars flip and then we get the problem of leaving that wreck.
i think the FIA might do this for 2 reasons; the above regarding the liability lawsuits - and because it's probable it's going to fail horrendously and put a stop to it once and for all. the result will be that it will actually be more dangerous. which then sets the FIA completely free, with the possibility to say ; we've tried - it made things worse. end of issue.
Not forgetting how close we came to Alonso being jam in 2012/Spa, And Massa being dead in 2009/Hungary.Big Mangalhit wrote: ↑20 Jul 2017, 17:35Also did Webber's in nurburgring 2013.TankMarvin wrote: ↑20 Jul 2017, 16:33Perez's wheel detached from the car when he hit the barriers in Azerbaijan.
Also Buemi China 2010
If the car slams into this "device" it will break as a toothpick, making sharp death spikes for the driver and his head. I seriously doubt it is capable to stop 600, 700 kg of weight, not to mention that cars aint stationary in the crash so it means double, triple, or even more than that of the raw weight of the cars.Moose wrote: ↑20 Jul 2017, 19:47Not forgetting how close we came to Alonso being jam in 2012/Spa, And Massa being dead in 2009/Hungary.Big Mangalhit wrote: ↑20 Jul 2017, 17:35Also did Webber's in nurburgring 2013.TankMarvin wrote: ↑20 Jul 2017, 16:33Perez's wheel detached from the car when he hit the barriers in Azerbaijan.
Also Buemi China 2010
This device has very little in the way of drawbacks, and offers significant advantages. Why on earth would you petition against it?
Very little drawbacks? I disagree; this device needs a dubbel freak accident to actually serve its purpose, the first freak accident needs to create an item that projects it towards a drivers head AND the second freak "accident" require that item to hit the upper radius of the device to deflect the item upwards or hit it dead center on the radius to deflect the item back towards its original trajectory.