Honda F1 project leader Yusuke Hasegawa has outlined a number of reasons why Honda has been struggling so badly in the beginning of the 2017 Formula One season. He confirmed that lots of problems were not discovered while running on the dynamo meter.
If they can put on those 30kW as is being said, then they will reach Renault PU power (appx.).
Internal politics wouldn't allow everyone to get their way, it's easy to say in hindsight, but in engineering, equations and formulas are nice but rarely ever account for all variables.drunkf1fan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2017, 02:39I'd say that a LOT of people believed Honda would be good in the first year. Everywhere i looked and read the sentiment was that Honda were great, had pedigree and would do great. Sky's thing was hyping it up all 2013 and a hell of a lot of fans believed even after preseason testing that Honda would be competitive by the summer. Very few people were calling it a disaster in the making.Redragon wrote: ↑28 Jul 2017, 00:11I am sorry but you don't start a business spending and investing I big amounts of staff and resources if you don't know the right path, it is bound to be a failure or suicide from the beginning. All businesses start small and invest along as things are needed on the way, step by step. That's why the project is a 10 years plan. The mistake they did was to start too cocky promising wins on year 1 when everybody knew was impossible.
Also where Merc had basically 4 seasons to a new regulation period they planned to hit hard so sensibly built up year by year, Honda were rushing in with only 18 months development, they didn't have the option to build up a program slowly at all, they had to hit it full strength straight away. They needed people working on different design options asap to have any chance of finding the right thing. If they wanted a slow build up(which is absolutely the optimum way to do it) they absolutely had to, I mean had to say no to Mclaren's deal and say they want 2.5-3.5 years of development, 18 months was absolutely crazy and once they agreed to that they gave up any dream of building up slowly and sensibly. 18 months and they wanted to catch up to Merc who would be at 4.5 years or so of big budget development by the time they entered.
Even then throwing money isn't the best solution in many circumstances with only 18 months of development time it was the only outside chance they had of hitting 2015 running.
You have a pool of parts, often, teams use older parts for practice so as to not add unnecessary mileage to the race components. Unless they're testing new PU elements, it makes no sense to use them in practice, and you don't need to use q3 mode to test chassis components either.
2015?
Come back to the future
. It's 2017 Renault PU I am talking about.
To stop the rumor of "Spa". I will explain where this comes from..
Wasn't the 2016 unit an evolution of the 2015 one??
Lets wait until the race unfolds.
V6 twin turbo with ERS system without MGU-H and bring back refuellingringo wrote: ↑29 Jul 2017, 22:41The new engine formula for 2021 should spur them on. Honda should feel more assurance and stability and develop in a way that would level them up with the other engines for the new engine formula. A twin turbo v6 is it?
I am expecting at least a very good engine in 2019. Next year i only see them in a respectable position; not one of top drawer.
I think that's all up in the air.ringo wrote: ↑29 Jul 2017, 22:41The new engine formula for 2021 should spur them on. Honda should feel more assurance and stability and develop in a way that would level them up with the other engines for the new engine formula. A twin turbo v6 is it?
I am expecting at least a very good engine in 2019. Next year i only see them in a respectable position; not one of top drawer.
