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Honda F1 project leader Yusuke Hasegawa has outlined a number of reasons why Honda has been struggling so badly in the beginning of the 2017 Formula One season. He confirmed that lots of problems were not discovered while running on the dynamo meter.
Yeah, the current STR is such a great car.Andres125sx wrote: ↑12 Sep 2017, 08:45I´m mainly an Alonso supporter, even when I also like the enginering, but now I´ll root for Honda. IMHO McLaren did split in the worst possible timeframe, exactly when Honda has bottomed and now they will only improve and improve and improve.
If/when STR beat McLaren next season in some GP, I´ll laugh deeply. STR make awesome cars, once Honda start working Mclaren will have a problem with that poor PU, because like it or not, Renault is a poor PU right now.
The Renault PU isn't that poor and it's miles ahead of the Honda. You call yourself an Alonso supporter, but will laugh deeply when he get's overtaking by a Honda, great supporter. Stop hating McLaren for the failing Honda.
Renault and Redbull haven't matched Ferrari and Mercedes last 4 years, mainly because Renault engine. So how come Renault is gonna be the solution to Mclaren actual problems?ZakB wrote: ↑12 Sep 2017, 09:40Yeah, the current STR is such a great car.Andres125sx wrote: ↑12 Sep 2017, 08:45I´m mainly an Alonso supporter, even when I also like the enginering, but now I´ll root for Honda. IMHO McLaren did split in the worst possible timeframe, exactly when Honda has bottomed and now they will only improve and improve and improve.
If/when STR beat McLaren next season in some GP, I´ll laugh deeply. STR make awesome cars, once Honda start working Mclaren will have a problem with that poor PU, because like it or not, Renault is a poor PU right now.
Exactly...Andres125sx wrote: ↑12 Sep 2017, 08:45I´m mainly an Alonso supporter, even when I also like the enginering, but now I´ll root for Honda. IMHO McLaren did split in the worst possible timeframe, exactly when Honda has bottomed and now they will only improve and improve and improve.
If/when STR beat McLaren next season in some GP, I´ll laugh deeply. STR make awesome cars, once Honda start working Mclaren will have a problem with that poor PU, because like it or not, Renault is a poor PU right now.
The Renault may not be the most reliable power unit but it made a mockery of the honda unit in the mclaren at monza. Did you see how easily Palmer was able to come up to and essentially go past Alonso until Alonso decided to make things difficult for palmer. Red Bulls were overtaking Mercedes powered Williams and Force India's. Now maybe with this deal Red Bull can get there hands on the Honda and help them evolve the mgu-k and h to a point where the honda is as good as the Renault but I don't think a Renault powered car will be slower then a Honda powered one in 2018.Andres125sx wrote: ↑12 Sep 2017, 08:45I´m mainly an Alonso supporter, even when I also like the enginering, but now I´ll root for Honda. IMHO McLaren did split in the worst possible timeframe, exactly when Honda has bottomed and now they will only improve and improve and improve.
If/when STR beat McLaren next season in some GP, I´ll laugh deeply. STR make awesome cars, once Honda start working Mclaren will have a problem with that poor PU, because like it or not, Renault is a poor PU right now.
Well at least they performed at the top and Red Bull was in 2016 faster than the Ferrari, sounds a whole lot better than fighting with Haas and Sauber. Red Bull also admitted that they haven't had the greatest winter, so stop acting like they are god. According to you Renault isn't a solution, but you do expect a company that has been failing for three years to beat Mercedes, Ferrari and Renault in the coming years.Redragon wrote: ↑12 Sep 2017, 10:44Renault and Redbull haven't matched Ferrari and Mercedes last 4 years, mainly because Renault engine. So how come Renault is gonna be the solution to Mclaren actual problems?ZakB wrote: ↑12 Sep 2017, 09:40Yeah, the current STR is such a great car.Andres125sx wrote: ↑12 Sep 2017, 08:45I´m mainly an Alonso supporter, even when I also like the enginering, but now I´ll root for Honda. IMHO McLaren did split in the worst possible timeframe, exactly when Honda has bottomed and now they will only improve and improve and improve.
If/when STR beat McLaren next season in some GP, I´ll laugh deeply. STR make awesome cars, once Honda start working Mclaren will have a problem with that poor PU, because like it or not, Renault is a poor PU right now.
+1ZakB wrote: ↑12 Sep 2017, 12:06Well at least they performed at the top and Red Bull was in 2016 faster than the Ferrari, sounds a whole lot better than fighting with Haas and Sauber. Red Bull also admitted that they haven't had the greatest winter, so stop acting like they are god. According to you Renault isn't a solution, but you do expect a company that has been failing for three years to beat Mercedes, Ferrari and Renault in the coming years.
Honda doesn't have anything to prove at this point. They just need to improve their unit and continue with development so they have a solid start to 2018.Redragon wrote: ↑12 Sep 2017, 11:01If I was Honda and the contract with Mclaren was broken by this weekend.
I would bring the spec 4 fully, get the sanctions so the team doesn't have much possibility of points (a middle finger to Mclaren as it is Honda who is paying) and if not any problems get as close of the podium to show the real potential of the engine.
