2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

[nanocustic]

Autosport sort of confirmed the switch too. Risky move, but understandable imo, after the mess in which Ron put them.

Let's hope at least it pays off for them, so they don't become the new Williams.

[Mad]

Ah Sad news indeed, I was hoping for a fourth year. Hopefully Honda will be able to improve without all the pressure.

Does anyone know if the engagement was mutual between Honda and Mclaren? Penalties paid or not?

[Redragon]

The budget of Mclaren in 2016 was of 216 Millions of Euros of which £76 millions come from FOM, £70 millions from sponsors and £70 millions from Honda plus not paying a penny for the engines http://soymotor.com/noticias/cuanto-din ... 016-928064

[Sevach]

Because McLaren-Mercedes was three years ago, the team has new technical staff, new management, and new drivers?


Also, I have always been puzzled by McLaren's performance in 2014. They were comfortably best of the rest in Australia, had a double podium, and then they just fell off a cliff.

It was reported that the difference was in the fuel/lubricant supplier, and the firing of Whitmarsh and return of Ron Dennis may have been a factor, too. Anyway, in Australia the McLaren looked strong, the rest of the season not so much. I always wondered about that.

They weren't best of the rest, they got an excelent result, but that was fortuitous, due to Ricciardo being DSQ, Vettel having a lot of problems, Massa got ran over in T1 and Bottas (clearly the faster non-Rosberg car in that race) had to come through the field twice after he got a puncture.

[dren]

[GoranF1]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJbX2hOXkAA6bWm.jpg

What about the money Mclaren lost due to Honda in the standings?

[dren]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJbX2hOXkAA6bWm.jpg

What about the money Mclaren lost due to Honda in the standings?

Feel free to figure out with your infinite wisdom where exactly Mclaren would have finished and how much Honda 'screwed' them.

[Shrieker]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJbX2hOXkAA6bWm.jpg

What about the money Mclaren lost due to Honda in the standings?

Feel free to figure out with your infinite wisdom where exactly Mclaren would have finished and how much Honda 'screwed' them.

4th vs. wherever they finished in the WCC last 2 years ? How much is the gap ?

[kfrantzios]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJbX2hOXkAA6bWm.jpg

Source? For all i know these are all fake...

[NathanOlder]

Not 300m+ i guarantee

Well 320-340m after they pay Renault on top of what they will lose from Honda.

[GoranF1]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJbX2hOXkAA6bWm.jpg

What about the money Mclaren lost due to Honda in the standings?

Feel free to figure out with your infinite wisdom where exactly Mclaren would have finished and how much Honda 'screwed' them.

A lot higher....

[Mansell89]

Just not sure about this move at the moment. There's so many potential things to consider.

1) Surely Honda will eventually get closer now and if they do, will Renault be much better than them (and hence is it worth losing the Honda money?)

2) Renault finally get it right and make the step to get right on Ferrari level minimum. McLaren fight for podiums.

3) Is this simply eradicating all things Ron Dennis (Honda)from Mansour Ojeh et al?

5) McLaren have somehow spent 3 years navigating from a Mercedes customer engine to a Renault customer engine. They've also just taken all the pain and handed Red Bull a works deal if they want it??

6) The 2021 scenario. New power units- so Honda would have caught up just about and then F1 bins the hybrids. McLaren can then choose a new manufacturer or create one in house?


Who knows how it will play out. For the sake of the sport, I hope both Renault and Honda come good and we somehow have competitive racing between now and 2021.

[Phil]

4th vs. wherever they finished in the WCC last 2 years ? How much is the gap ?

You must be dreaming. They didnt even manage that in 2014 with the best engine on the grid. You might also be forgetting the engineers and staff McLaren lost prior to that and how McLaren, with all that investment by Honda, was able to build that back up somewhat with key staff aquisitions...

[makecry]

4th vs. wherever they finished in the WCC last 2 years ? How much is the gap ?

You must be dreaming. They didnt even manage that in 2014 with the best engine on the grid. You might also be forgetting the engineers and staff McLaren lost prior to that and how McLaren, with all that investment by Honda, was able to build that back up somewhat with key staff aquisitions...

Since when has the past performance been any indicator of current or future performance in F1? By your logic. 2014 Ferrari was bad so they will be bad now and for eternity. Sigh. . LOL.

[RedNEO]

4th vs. wherever they finished in the WCC last 2 years ? How much is the gap ?

You must be dreaming. They didnt even manage that in 2014 with the best engine on the grid. You might also be forgetting the engineers and staff McLaren lost prior to that and how McLaren, with all that investment by Honda, was able to build that back up somewhat with key staff aquisitions...

Since when has the past performance been any indicator of current or future performance in F1? By your logic. 2014 Ferrari was bad so they will be bad now and for eternity. Sigh. . LOL.

I've seen a lot of haters wanting McLaren to fail with this move so it's going to make the comeback all the more sweeter to see Alonso flexing his muscles in that McLaren Renault. Best part? Engine parity with Renault and Redbull so we will get to see the great battle of the chassis, Newey vs Prodromou! Let's get it!