2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

[HPD]

I do not know what kind of promise they made to Alonso.
Fortunately Honda will be in a better team, away from these problems.

"Alonso: In 2018 my fans will see me winning races."

http://soymotor.com/noticias/alonso-mis ... 018-939412

[adrianjordan]

@kaepernickus That's an interesting suggestion that the Renault could be rebranded in the McLaren.

Nissan maybe!

Or Infiniti eventually.

Or even Datsun would be a step up at this point.

Not sure who else Renault - Nissan own but I thought they owned Mazda as well?

I do quite like the mock up liveries using the Alpine brand...

[Dimi]

I do not know what kind of promise they made to Alonso.
Fortunately Honda will be in a better team, away from these problems.

"Alonso: In 2018 my fans will see me winning races."

http://soymotor.com/noticias/alonso-mis ... 018-939412

Winning races in indy. Easy!

[Mad]

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opini ... p-red-bull

Red Bull could be set to lose Renault power, as the McLaren-Honda divorce nears conclusion.

With Honda benefitting from considerable technical help from an Ilmor group that includes ex-Mercedes engine engineers, there is of course realistic hope that Honda will finally make a competitive breakthrough next year.

McLaren’s decision to annul its engine partnership with Honda is having reverberations through the whole field.

Renault may force Redbull's hand into taking Honda engines. In that case i think it would be better for Redbull to take the Honda engines in 2018 rather than 2019. 4 cars will surely expedite the development, which our former partner Mclaren didn't allow.

[baybars]

Oopss..
Poor Renault they will have a new scapegoat to justify their amarteurism

I wonder what McLaren or Alonso will do if they encounter what verstappen lives this season. I think Renault will be better next season but we won't know until see it

I hope the same. But with a redesigned pu they will encounter problems at the beginning

PU will not redesign.2018 PU will be upgraded 2017 PU concept

Taffin comment:
There is still a big focus in trying to follow our road map and make sure that next year’s engine is there. And as it is an engine that is close to this one, it is easier to transfer ideas from one to the other."
source:http://en.f1i.com/news/272180-renault-p ... store.html

[ZakB]

Is this the same Illien that was dismished by Renault, because a lack of potential?

[Vasconia]

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opini ... p-red-bull

Red Bull could be set to lose Renault power, as the McLaren-Honda divorce nears conclusion.

With Honda benefitting from considerable technical help from an Ilmor group that includes ex-Mercedes engine engineers, there is of course realistic hope that Honda will finally make a competitive breakthrough next year.

McLaren’s decision to annul its engine partnership with Honda is having reverberations through the whole field.

Renault may force Redbull's hand into taking Honda engines. In that case i think it would be better for Redbull to take the Honda engines in 2018 rather than 2019. 4 cars will surely expedite the development, which our former partner Mclaren didn't allow.

Honda could benefit from considerable technical help if they accept it, as far as we know this hasn´t be the case with McLaren.

2018 is too early for RB, 2019 should be more appropiate.

[bauc]

What ever ALO chooses to do he has earned the right, I'm just hoping Mclaren will be competitive again, the wellbeeing of the team is priority for me

[Dimi]

I wonder what McLaren or Alonso will do if they encounter what verstappen lives this season. I think Renault will be better next season but we won't know until see it

I hope the same. But with a redesigned pu they will encounter problems at the beginning

PU will not redesign.2018 PU will be upgraded 2017 PU concept

Taffin comment:
There is still a big focus in trying to follow our road map and make sure that next year’s engine is there. And as it is an engine that is close to this one, it is easier to transfer ideas from one to the other."
source:http://en.f1i.com/news/272180-renault-p ... store.html

Cyril Abiteboul:

“Frankly the next big upgrade will be next year. Then we will have a completely new concept. That will make a difference – but as I said 2018.”

I had this in mind.

[Jacinto]

Is this the same Illien that was dismished by Renault, because a lack of potential?

It´s the same man that founded "Ilmor Engineering". I believe it´s now known as "Mercedes AMG High Performance Powertrains".

[OviJohn]

Nothing we havent debated before, but hey! The more the merrier no?

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/ ... orce-honda

[Chicane]

I hope the same. But with a redesigned pu they will encounter problems at the beginning

PU will not redesign.2018 PU will be upgraded 2017 PU concept

Taffin comment:
There is still a big focus in trying to follow our road map and make sure that next year’s engine is there. And as it is an engine that is close to this one, it is easier to transfer ideas from one to the other."
source:http://en.f1i.com/news/272180-renault-p ... store.html

Cyril Abiteboul:

“Frankly the next big upgrade will be next year. Then we will have a completely new concept. That will make a difference – but as I said 2018.”

I had this in mind.

Cyril Abiteboul on August 20th 2017

"Next year there will be big improvement in terms of performance but in terms of architecture it will be the same as this year."

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13131 ... f1-success

[dren]

Nothing we havent debated before, but hey! The more the merrier no?

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/ ... orce-honda

"humiliating loss of prestige"

In my opinion, that happened before Honda joined.

[baybars]

I hope the same. But with a redesigned pu they will encounter problems at the beginning

PU will not redesign.2018 PU will be upgraded 2017 PU concept

Taffin comment:
There is still a big focus in trying to follow our road map and make sure that next year’s engine is there. And as it is an engine that is close to this one, it is easier to transfer ideas from one to the other."
source:http://en.f1i.com/news/272180-renault-p ... store.html

Cyril Abiteboul:

“Frankly the next big upgrade will be next year. Then we will have a completely new concept. That will make a difference – but as I said 2018.”

I had this in mind.

Don't take care Cyril Abiteboul what he said
Taffin is engine side director.
He said that an engine that is close to this one
Then Abiteboul said same thing like Taffin
Thanks @Chicane for source

Cyril Abiteboul on August 20th 2017
"Next year there will be big improvement in terms of performance but in terms of architecture it will be the same as this year."
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/rena ... en-948714/

[RS200E]

Nothing we havent debated before, but hey! The more the merrier no?

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/ ... orce-honda

"humiliating loss of prestige"

In my opinion, that happened before Honda joined.

I suspect a hint of bias.