Wild guess, bu t maybe as with gearboxes?
RB supplies Mclaren, Mclaren supplies TR, until they are ok with own custom one?
I doubt it.
It's on their webpage. http://www.scuderiatororosso.com/en_GB/car/str12STR wrote:Transmission
Gearbox Maincase: Scuderia Toro Rosso, one piece carbon fibre.
Gears: eight-speed sequential - hydraulically operated.
Supplied by Red Bull Technology.
- Of the FIA press conferenceRELATIONSHIP WITH HONDA UNTIL 2020
"I want to thank the Honda bosses for believing in Toro Rosso.
We are proud and look forward to working with them in an exclusive alliance, and I hope we have a successful future.
The gearbox, as in previous years, will make Toro Rosso, "said Tost.
"In the short term, Honda will dramatically improve performance and have a lot of potential.
This season have had many improvements.
I am 100% convinced that Honda will take a big step forward in the near future and in the next three years.
We are very happy to have such a good ally. We will have a very successful season."
I am sure this would not have helped Honda much given that there was a breakup threat which was looming since beginning of the season and I am sure they saw it coming.Masashi Yamamoto, general manager of Honda's motorsport division, admitted that McLaren had been trying to exit its deal "since the beginning of the season" and that "it is for us a shame and a disappointment that we have to separate".
You can't just dump something in the back somewhere a year behind everyone else and expect to be on the front of the grid.DFX wrote: ↑15 Sep 2017, 14:21This is the most flawed argument possible.
1- They need time, but that's not how F1 works. Honda fell victim of its own promises, I doubt Mclaren would be ditching them if they told they would need 4 years to be competitive and Mclaren agreed with that. Both Mclaren e Honda didnt met their targets in this partnership.
I have no doubt that teams can improve. However, McLaren does not 'show' any signs of improvement themselves.2- F1 is always moving, the argument that 'since one team gone bad they can never go back' is absurd.
McLaren is behind on development, has been for years now, and it is something that they need to overcome. They do not show any signs of actually overcoming this deficit.Since the time cited, Mclaren have gone through a huge reestructuring and although last year chassis didnt impressed me too much, the Mcl 32 looks solid, needs work too do but has being praised as being one of the best.
Toro Rosso is doing a lot with the limited resources that they have, and have outperformed McLaren in the past few years. Toro Rosso will gain a lot of resources with Honda, and McLaren loses this. It is unsure how McLaren is going to deal with this loss of resources. Sure, the Renault might be better, but they are literally a customer and will lose all benefits being a factory squad brings with them. And being a factory team means a whole lot on motorsports these days.3- Following that, it's very unlikely, even if Honda match Renault in 2018, that TR will be ahead of Mclaren. I would like to believe that Mclaren is taking a very calculated move. They know Honda plans for 2018, they have the numbers, even so they have gone with Renault. I dont think that is much of a gamble. TR can be great with extra cash to develop their car, but they are nowhere near Mclaren right now.