marmer wrote: ↑25 Sep 2017, 17:53Could honda force McLaren to run a new power unit and take penalties if they have an upgrade. If not I could see McLaren saying no we don't want the upgrade after honda have rushed it to make a weekend that it won't run.
Although rate of failure currently might make this point mute as every couple of races they will need a new engine
How in the hell is that going to happen whit 80hp gap to Mercedes, 75 to Ferrari and 60 to Renault?
How in the hell is that going to happen whit 80hp gap to Mercedes, 75 to Ferrari and 60 to Renault?
In his defense, he said, it would be nice. He did not say it was possible! I will add, not sure what good it would do to the partnership. It's like giving oxygen to a corpse. If anything it would add fuel to the idea that the breakup was a bad idea. OMG, I don't want to relive that!
Well, in McLaren they think Hasegawa can´t be believed eithertechman wrote: ↑25 Sep 2017, 23:41How in the hell is that going to happen whit 80hp gap to Mercedes, 75 to Ferrari and 60 to Renault?
hasegawa said honda were overtaking renault before the end of the season with spec 4. 60 to renault. give a break, you believe on media rumours, next season will hightligh the real problem of mclaren honda
what happened to its new concept for Honda guys give them a chanceAndres125sx wrote: ↑26 Sep 2017, 17:55
Anycase, if they really match Renault, that will be only because Renault stop introducing upgrades
Renault was planning to catch or beat merc end of 2017 season but they couldn't. Honda and Renault said, they can be prevented by reliablity, they are taking big risks with new architecture. Of course Honda could end up Renault's way. But Renault stop to update and Honda keep updating. So they target to beat renault. Next season still Honda targeting to beat renault. Remember what they had said when they declare toro rosso partnership. Because their weakness you can't say they can not set targets. Being 3d is very realistic approach.Andres125sx wrote: ↑26 Sep 2017, 17:55Well, in McLaren they think Hasegawa can´t be believed eithertechman wrote: ↑25 Sep 2017, 23:41How in the hell is that going to happen whit 80hp gap to Mercedes, 75 to Ferrari and 60 to Renault?
hasegawa said honda were overtaking renault before the end of the season with spec 4. 60 to renault. give a break, you believe on media rumours, next season will hightligh the real problem of mclaren honda
Anycase, if they really match Renault, that will be only because Renault stop introducing upgrades because they´re working on a new 2018 PU, so even if Hasegawa statement become reality, it will only be for the final part of 2017 season, but next season...
I´ve always prefered McLaren staying with Honda, but they´re far from fools, if they renounced to Honda they must have some strong evidences Honda will not be as competitive as Renault next season