2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

[DFX]

I wish whenever one of RB's Renault engines died they cut to a shot of the McLaren wall.

If Renault had been powering McLaren this year the thread would be calling for blood.

[Edit] Then again, maybe it wouldn't be much difference...

I think they would still be pretty happy given that Alonso PU failed aswell as Vandoorne new spec, as someone reported on Honda thread. Don't know if its true though..

Or you could watch the replay of Verstappen blazing past Alonso on the back straight and reckon that its a good gamble to have that PU..

[etusch]

I wish whenever one of RB's Renault engines died they cut to a shot of the McLaren wall.

If Renault had been powering McLaren this year the thread would be calling for blood.

[Edit] Then again, maybe it wouldn't be much difference...

When Renault engine gone we hear it onboard cam, when Alo's engine gone, it's every time he could go to pit, it's every time when someone passed him

[Alonso Fan]

I wish whenever one of RB's Renault engines died they cut to a shot of the McLaren wall.

If Renault had been powering McLaren this year the thread would be calling for blood.

[Edit] Then again, maybe it wouldn't be much difference...

When Renault engine gone we hear it onboard cam, when Alo's engine gone, it's every time he could go to pit, it's every time when someone passed him

MguH failure, confirmed by ted

He's behind vandoorne in the championship. Why on earth would he throw away points on purpose?

[Del Boy]

well you keep waiting the almighty spec 4 i have better things to do than to read what Hasegawa and Wazari are saying and they already deleted what i said LOL.

I guess Wazari mentioned last month itself after McLaren and Honda divorce that it is unlikely that Honda will introduce Spec 4 this year. And I think it makes sense from them to not give away too many details to McLaren. They can now focus on 2018 engine without being stressed about poor performance this year.

About Spec 4, we will never know the truth - but now who cares?

2017 is almost done. We will know next year how good a engine Honda comes up with

Or he knew that Spec 4 didnt perform as expected and/or had reliability issues and they decided to not introduce it at all and that was the reason for the divorce.

It makes no sense to not introduce spec 4 this year if it's ready. 4-5 race weekends worth of real world experience will beat their shitty dynos anyway.

I was very sceptical about the switch to Renault, believing that Honda would find the magic bullet any day soon. But after 3 years the engine should at least be reliable or powerful, the engine is still 2-3 seasons away from equalling Ferrari or Mercedes and also behind the Renault in both power and reliability. McLaren must know all about spec 4.0 and still didn't want the engine.

[OviJohn]

I wish whenever one of RB's Renault engines died they cut to a shot of the McLaren wall.

If Renault had been powering McLaren this year the thread would be calling for blood.

[Edit] Then again, maybe it wouldn't be much difference...

When Renault engine gone we hear it onboard cam, when Alo's engine gone, it's every time he could go to pit, it's every time when someone passed him

Here you go sir, from Hasegawa-San himself:

“Fernando started today from eighth on the grid and was up into seventh at the start. He maintained his position and kept his rivals behind him, until his race came to a premature end because of an MGU-H issue.

“It’s very disappointing that we faced more issues with our PU – particularly because the reliability has been relatively stable in recent races. We will immediately investigate the issue with the Sakura team and work towards a countermeasure for Mexico next weekend."

Source: http://www.mclaren.com/formula1/2017/un ... rand-prix/

I can understand Honda fans being bitter, but blaming or even suggesting that Alonso "quits" once he gets passed...

Roll over 2018.

[etusch]

Ok if Hasegawa I believe

[Joseki]

When Renault engine gone we hear it onboard cam, when Alo's engine gone, it's every time he could go to pit, it's every time when someone passed him

He was passed because the engine failed

[diffuser]

Nado would never park it if he was in the point or close.

[diffuser]

The penalties for the XTRA PUs they use are nowhere as painful as the DNFs. They should change the rule to allow a penalty "free" change of PU after a DNF, if you've exceeded the alotment.

[DFX]

The penalties for the XTRA PUs they use are nowhere as painful as the DNFs. They should change the rule to allow a penalty "free" change of PU after a DNF, if you've exceeded the alotment.

It would make teams that are not in points in a current race to 'fake' an engine failure just to get a free PU.

And I dont understand where does all that talk about Alonso parking the car coming from. No one has any prove to substantiate that and still we have to hear it everytime that the car fail somehow..

[diffuser]

He does it, he even comes on the radio and asks sometimes. In those rases in the past when the car was something like 15th and going backwards, he'll come on the radio and "not in so many words" ask to retire the car.

[DFX]

He does it, he even comes on the radio and asks sometimes. In those rases in the past when the car was something like 15th and going backwards, he'll come on the radio and "not in so many words" ask to retire the car.

Can you provide any reference?

[Joseki]

The penalties for the XTRA PUs they use are nowhere as painful as the DNFs. They should change the rule to allow a penalty "free" change of PU after a DNF, if you've exceeded the alotment.

Honda should make a product up to the standard required to compete in F1.

Actually the product Honda makes at the moment is under the standard of any racing category in the world.

[loner]

GREAT GREAT NEWS .. ALO COULD have more 3 hp from the spec 3.8 in Mexico
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13258 ... 1508021096

iam very bitter that i believed hasegawa and wazari for a whole year

[Chicane]

Honda are setting an unbeatable record for number of PU elements used for the season and this bodes well for next year when only 3 power units will be allowed for the season.