#aerogollumturbof1 wrote: YOU SHALL NOT......STALLLLL!!!
This is what Zak can do but formula is not that
If it happens big probably Honda would be no 1 engine and Renault no 2. I don't think there's that much gap and in the other hand it's not only power matter.Joseki wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 00:59The logic used in the article doesn't make sense. They wrote that McLaren will be behind the top 3 because of the engine not being much faster than the Honda engine, and that implies that they will be closer to the top 3 with if they had more power. Of course that makes no sense considering that Red Bull is part of the top 3 and will have the same amount of power McLaren will have.
Personally I'm waiting for winter testing, I'm sure we'll read the most absurd things in the next few months, I'm fully expecting rumors like "Renault will have 1050 hp" or "Honda's has found 100 hp!".
shows how much lies commentators can spread, they dont even into consideration drag levels of mclaren compared to redbull. just spreading rumours just because the some people at mclaren boast about their chassis. funny. i wonder what they will say when mclaren is slower to a redbull in 2018Interesting.
If Honda have 900hp
Renault= 954hp
Mercedes= 999hp
or
Honda = 850hp
Renault= 901hp
Mercedes= 943hp
Somewhere between 93-99hp down on Merc and 51-54hp on Renault.
Next year, McLaren could see the power deficit reduced by 1/2.
Yes because Honda will not develop!!!stevesingo wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 12:06Interesting.
If Honda have 900hp
Renault= 954hp
Mercedes= 999hp
or
Honda = 850hp
Renault= 901hp
Mercedes= 943hp
Somewhere between 93-99hp down on Merc and 51-54hp on Renault.
Next year, McLaren could see the power deficit reduced by 1/2.
And Renault won't?etusch wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 14:23Yes because Honda will not develop!!!stevesingo wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 12:06Interesting.
If Honda have 900hp
Renault= 954hp
Mercedes= 999hp
or
Honda = 850hp
Renault= 901hp
Mercedes= 943hp
Somewhere between 93-99hp down on Merc and 51-54hp on Renault.
Next year, McLaren could see the power deficit reduced by 1/2.
The full info was comparison compared to Mecerdes.techman wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 13:17shows how much lies commentators can spread, they dont even into consideration drag levels of mclaren compared to redbull. just spreading rumours just because the some people at mclaren boast about their chassis. funny. i wonder what they will say when mclaren is slower to a redbull in 2018Interesting.
If Honda have 900hp
Renault= 954hp
Mercedes= 999hp
or
Honda = 850hp
Renault= 901hp
Mercedes= 943hp
Somewhere between 93-99hp down on Merc and 51-54hp on Renault.
Next year, McLaren could see the power deficit reduced by 1/2.
So every time someone develop and other too develop at same level? if so why they are keep trying if at the end everything will stay same. Maybe Honda will develop lesser than Renault but thinking in this season's data(!) and talking about next season assuming everything will be same has not any logic.Restomaniac wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 15:02And Renault won't?etusch wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 14:23Yes because Honda will not develop!!!stevesingo wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 12:06
Next year, McLaren could see the power deficit reduced by 1/2.
What does drag have to do with power output of a power unit? You assume Brundle came to those figures based off speed trap numbers, when it's very likely it's come from talking to engineers from the pitlane. That information is shared more freely in the paddock than you'd think. The drag comparison argument is growing old very quickly! It's irrelevant to next year.techman wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 13:17shows how much lies commentators can spread, they dont even into consideration drag levels of mclaren compared to redbull. just spreading rumours just because the some people at mclaren boast about their chassis. funny. i wonder what they will say when mclaren is slower to a redbull in 2018
Far more logical to assume a similar improvement across the board than a massive jump that Honda will magically make up some ground when they have been unable to do so for the past 3 years.etusch wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 15:14So every time someone develop and other too develop at same level? if so why they are keep trying if at the end everything will stay same. Maybe Honda will develop lesser than Renault but thinking in this season's data(!) and talking about next season assuming everything will be same has not any logic.
You know what? I'm preying McLaren are sat up Red Bulls gearbox and I'm It's not a McLaren fan at all.Xero wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 15:20What does drag have to do with power output of a power unit? You assume Brundle came to those figures based off speed trap numbers, when it's very likely it's come from talking to engineers from the pitlane. That information is shared more freely in the paddock than you'd think. The drag comparison argument is growing old very quickly! It's irrelevant to next year.techman wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 13:17shows how much lies commentators can spread, they dont even into consideration drag levels of mclaren compared to redbull. just spreading rumours just because the some people at mclaren boast about their chassis. funny. i wonder what they will say when mclaren is slower to a redbull in 2018
looks like you havent watch much F1. if you remember mclaren engineeers said the same thing about wining the 2013 and 14 season with mercedes and having a great chassis before the season started. but what happened?, they were the slowest of all the mercedes runners and had the slowest top speed of all mercedes runners. just shows what drag can do to an overall performance of the carYou assume Brundle came to those figures based off speed trap numbers, when it's very likely it's come from talking to engineers from the pitlane.