Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+

[dans79]

Like your mother or grandmother probably said, it's what's on the inside that counts! To be clear, I don't just mean the PU.

[Unc1eM0nty]

Wtf? Why would they do this? Come one there's gonna be something they're trying to hide in plain sight! (or I'm crazy to think that).

What is he really giving away, slimmer side pods, raised front suspension, nothing that isn't mentioned on the first couple of pages of this thread.

[NathanOlder]

I like how he states how last years car wouldn't stand a chance against the new one, It would be obliterated! That sounds like quite a performance increase.

[Moose]

I like how he states how last years car wouldn't stand a chance against the new one, It would be obliterated! That sounds like quite a performance increase.

I mean, quarter of a second from sidepods alone is a pretty big increase, given that the car was already substantially faster at the end of the season.

[Just_a_fan]

0.25s just from the slimmer sidepod around the engine. Amazing, really.

[NathanOlder]

Indeed, why oh why cant all the teams do a qualy sim tomorrow all at the same time

[F1Krof]

Wtf? Why would they do this? Come one there's gonna be something they're trying to hide in plain sight! (or I'm crazy to think that).

What is he really giving away, slimmer side pods, raised front suspension, nothing that isn't mentioned on the first couple of pages of this thread.

Yes however, I've never seen a side by side comparison of two actual cars, the latter being launched a week ago! Just doesn't make sense for them to be so blatant. Probably they're trying to hide something, or trying to send the sight some place else I would guess.

Come on, let's just be honest, when's the last time you've seen something like this? I just don't buy it.

[Just_a_fan]

James Allison comes across well in the video. Speaks well to camera. I could see him as a TV pundit in future should he wish to.

[Jolle]

Wtf? Why would they do this? Come one there's gonna be something they're trying to hide in plain sight! (or I'm crazy to think that).

What is he really giving away, slimmer side pods, raised front suspension, nothing that isn't mentioned on the first couple of pages of this thread.

Yes however, I've never seen a side by side comparison of two actual cars, the latter being launched a week ago! Just doesn't make sense for them to be so blatant. Probably they're trying to hide something, or trying to send the sight some place else I would guess.

Come on, let's just be honest, when's the last time you've seen something like this? I just don't buy it.

aero on these cars is so detailed these days, all done in CFD and work together with the whole concept, that even detailed photo's wouldn't really make a difference. Just look at the Ferrari compared to the Mercedes. Just the positioning of the lower wishbones make the whole flow around the car so different that any copying is a waste of time.
It would be different if Mercedes showed their raised wishbones during the summer of '16, since then it's locked in for the next couple of years.

[krizalid1001]

I like how he states how last years car wouldn't stand a chance against the new one, It would be obliterated! That sounds like quite a performance increase.

They really seem very, very confident this year. Can't wait for OZ to see the real performance of this beast

[Unc1eM0nty]

What is he really giving away, slimmer side pods, raised front suspension, nothing that isn't mentioned on the first couple of pages of this thread.

Yes however, I've never seen a side by side comparison of two actual cars, the latter being launched a week ago! Just doesn't make sense for them to be so blatant. Probably they're trying to hide something, or trying to send the sight some place else I would guess.

Come on, let's just be honest, when's the last time you've seen something like this? I just don't buy it.

aero on these cars is so detailed these days, all done in CFD and work together with the whole concept, that even detailed photo's wouldn't really make a difference. Just look at the Ferrari compared to the Mercedes. Just the positioning of the lower wishbones make the whole flow around the car so different that any copying is a waste of time.

Exactly there are no short cuts, pointing out their improvements isn't going to help the other teams, nothing on these cars are modular, everything is bespoke but designed to work as an overall package. Its not plug and play, if other teams want to copy then they still have to do all the hard work to make it happen.

I agree I've never seen a team do a comparison like this before, I think its great for the fans, but they're only telling us about things we can already see.

[Mr.G]

Wtf? Why would they do this? Come one there's gonna be something they're trying to hide in plain sight! (or I'm crazy to think that).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfBOxwSNg6s

This is obvious Liberty Media video, let me explain...

- In begging they explain for the common viewer the obvious changes and try t explain why they have been done (halo saafety, t-wing missing, shark fin missing), because the attention span is short.
- then it graduate for more interested people (internet/subscriptions audience)
- then even more (... if you a petrol head you need to buy tickets and took pictures of the cars by your own...)
- in the end is trailer for new season (this car is nothing like last year it will be much much faster...)

All of this is wrapped into nice video, but when "watch from a distance" it's nice media massage.
We will see more of such things. And to be clear I like this approach, I just want to point out this is not 100% good will from Mercedes but more like common agreement between Mercedes and Liberty Media...

[Ennis]

Wtf? Why would they do this? Come one there's gonna be something they're trying to hide in plain sight! (or I'm crazy to think that).

What is he really giving away, slimmer side pods, raised front suspension, nothing that isn't mentioned on the first couple of pages of this thread.

Yes however, I've never seen a side by side comparison of two actual cars, the latter being launched a week ago! Just doesn't make sense for them to be so blatant. Probably they're trying to hide something, or trying to send the sight some place else I would guess.

Come on, let's just be honest, when's the last time you've seen something like this? I just don't buy it.

I think this is only unusual, because it isn't usual. Now away from stating the obvious..

I think F1 teams are often needlessly secretive. I understand there are certain things they want to keep under wraps, but they often seem intent on hiding things we already know. I'm sure there is a method to their madness, but I've never figured out what that method is. It seems like a 'this is what we've always done so this is what we'll do' thing.

[Morteza]

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[OO7]

Wtf? Why would they do this? Come one there's gonna be something they're trying to hide in plain sight! (or I'm crazy to think that).

What is he really giving away, slimmer side pods, raised front suspension, nothing that isn't mentioned on the first couple of pages of this thread.

Yes however, I've never seen a side by side comparison of two actual cars, the latter being launched a week ago! Just doesn't make sense for them to be so blatant. Probably they're trying to hide something, or trying to send the sight some place else I would guess.

Come on, let's just be honest, when's the last time you've seen something like this? I just don't buy it.

Mercedes have also been showing off their V6T for years now, I haven't seen other engine manufacturers other than Honda (who have provided incredible access) doing the same.