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No use arguing with someone that believes their own made up assumptions are "fact". Its clearly a vendetta against McLaren (in defense of Honda and their now new race team) at every opportunity. Everyone can see itmakecry wrote: ↑22 Mar 2018, 13:47
It flew right past you because you are always hell bent on pushing the "draggy mclaren chassis" narrative even though I see what you are trying to imply here but it's not going to be as of a factor as you are implying. . A fuel efficient engine + draggy chassis (mercedes' is quite draggy with all the million little winglets and by the virtue of running very high downforce) will not be as bad as a fuel hungry + low drag car.
What topic? McLaren Honda topic? yes but that wasn't what I was talking about. I was replying to techman who commented that Renault has now matched Honda's output and so I replied to him that peak output doesnt matter, efficiency does and Honda lacks in that which is evident by the fact that McLaren Honda on average were best of the rest in last few races but their race pace lacked, mainly due to massive fuel savings they had to do and that Honda needs to improve that to actually be good competitive PU and then mr.techman over turned into his usual "but draggy mclaren" .
How do you translate the last year efficiency to the present state of affairs? Also, I don't wish to go here in arguing about last year, but could be interesting to see your evidence that McLaren-Honda were down in lap times due to massive fuel savings compared to the other teams. What I remember is that they were able to keep their distance to the rest of middle field very easily and consistently in the last four races. This cannot be done with fuel saving.makecry wrote: ↑22 Mar 2018, 14:50What topic? McLaren Honda topic? yes but that wasn't what I was talking about. I was replying to techman who commented that Renault has now matched Honda's output and so I replied to him that peak output doesnt matter, efficiency does and Honda lacks in that which is evident by the fact that McLaren Honda on average were best of the rest in last few races but their race pace lacked, mainly due to massive fuel savings they had to do and that Honda needs to improve that to actually be good competitive PU and then mr.techman over turned into his usual "but draggy mclaren" .
The response was about deficit in terms of over efficiency evident by race pace last year and it wasn't about McLaren vs Honda or whatever.
its funny you still dont know that drag has a part to play in fuel efficiency. so here is it. read please.What topic? McLaren Honda topic? yes but that wasn't what I was talking about. I was replying to techman who commented that Renault has now matched Honda's output and so I replied to him that peak output doesnt matter, efficiency does and Honda lacks in that which is evident by the fact that McLaren Honda on average were best of the rest in last few races but their race pace lacked, mainly due to massive fuel savings they had to do and that Honda needs to improve that to actually be good competitive PU and then mr.techman over turned into his usual "but draggy mclaren" .
The response was about deficit in terms of over efficiency evident by race pace last year and it wasn't about McLaren vs Honda or whatever.
What are the objectives of this first season as holder at Toro Rosso?
The teams told us that it would be complicated for the start of the season because the contract was signed late with Honda (engine manufacturer that replaces Renault since this season, ed). It was necessary to change a lot of things on the car, they threw six months of development in the trash because they had to remake all the back of the car. Performance should be better in May. I hope that we will have a car to fight in the points and make flashes during the season.
http://www.gqmagazine.fr/lifestyle/spor ... ttel/61744
Brendon Hartley clocked the 18th time in the morning and 16th in the afternoon. He had what James Key, the technical director of Toro Rosso, described as "operational concerns".
"We lost some time on the track in the first session this morning, but we caught up with a good second session," said Hartley. "Tire management will be a very important topic in all teams but we have good data, whether for long relays or short relays. "
"We seem to be fighting in the middle of the rankings, but we still have some things to improve before qualifying. "
GASLY THINKS THAT GAPS ARE LOWPierre Gasly took 11th place in the first session. He signed the 17th time in the second. He expects some highly contested qualifications.
"The first Friday of the year ... it feels good to get back in the car to start the season! Says the Frenchman. "We've tested a lot of things for qualifying and the race, but we do not really know what the weather will be like tomorrow and Sunday, it seems like it might rain. "
"We'll see how it's going to happen, at least we've done some big tests and now we have to analyze the good and the bad things of this day. "
"I think it will be tight in the middle of the standings tomorrow, so we really have to put everything together, it can make a big difference on the starting grid. "
The issue is, everybody (well, Renault at least) is gearing up for engine 2 and the performance it will bring. The midfield is littered with Ferrari & Mercedes power. Renault have proven since 2016 season that their quite astute at unlocking performance with mapping, software etc. The reliability Honda have achieved is remarkable, Paul Di Resta was saying on Sky that if this is how they started 2017, the engine would still be in a Mclaren.dren wrote: ↑23 Mar 2018, 12:31The midfield from Mclaren to TR is a one second spread. That's very tight. I see the order moving back and forth depending on the track. Once Honda brings their performance update, they should make a jump up the midfield a bit. The cars aren't dead last and are clearly a good step above Sauber. It looks like they will be battling it out with Williams.