2018 Bahrain Grand Prix - Sakhir, April 6-8

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ClarkBT11 wrote:
08 Apr 2018, 21:10
TwanV wrote:
08 Apr 2018, 20:50
Totally irrelevant, I could post the same fragments of Hamilton shannanigans throughout his career. Sorry to tell you tag, this was a non-DRS pass that's the only difference. max had his wheels in front of Hamilton before the apex. The rule book is quite clear on those situations.
Verstappen completed the pass. The majority of opinions presented are that Verstappen was too aggressive or spatially unaware on how much space to leave another driver. The problem is it was a racing incident that was unnecessary.
It's only an unnecessary pass from the point of view that Hamilton is unbeatable, which I believe is silly. So other drivers should just follow Hamilton around because he's so superior? The only thing that was avoidable here is max slightly widening his line for alonso without Lewis acting accordingly. Racing accident.

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Juzh wrote:
08 Apr 2018, 20:06
Bottas vs Vettel last 2 laps onboard

https://streamable.com/4zllt
It's very harsh to have a go at Bottas for not having a go, that footage shows he was too far back to make a move.

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ClarkBT11 wrote:
08 Apr 2018, 21:10

Verstappen completed the pass. The majority of opinions presented are that Verstappen was too aggressive or spatially unaware on how much space to leave another driver. The problem is it was a racing incident that was unnecessary.

Exactly. Max is overly aggressive when he doesn't need to be, and it's cost him a lot of points so far in his career. Even if he hadn't gotten past in turn 1 he would have into 4.
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ClarkBT11 wrote:
08 Apr 2018, 21:10
TwanV wrote:
08 Apr 2018, 20:50
Totally irrelevant, I could post the same fragments of Hamilton shannanigans throughout his career. Sorry to tell you tag, this was a non-DRS pass that's the only difference. max had his wheels in front of Hamilton before the apex. The rule book is quite clear on those situations.
Verstappen completed the pass. The majority of opinions presented are that Verstappen was too aggressive or spatially unaware on how much space to leave another driver. The problem is it was a racing incident that was unnecessary.
Apparently you can become multiple world champion with that spacial disability :lol:

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The way Hamilton overtook the three cars- with Hulkenberg being the last one..

He did it actually the same way as Verstappen, by moving to the outside after the hairpin.

It is only because Hulkenberg gave up the position that there wasn’t a collision.

It was Hamilton’s fault vs. Verstappen, he should have backed off, knowing he lost the position- the same way Hulkenberg did.

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Exactly, just imagine HAM was ROS and VER was HAM.

Today.

Lucky it was like it was or the Internet would of ruptured.
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dans79 wrote:
08 Apr 2018, 21:26
ClarkBT11 wrote:
08 Apr 2018, 21:10

Verstappen completed the pass. The majority of opinions presented are that Verstappen was too aggressive or spatially unaware on how much space to leave another driver. The problem is it was a racing incident that was unnecessary.

Exactly. Max is overly aggressive when he doesn't need to be, and it's cost him a lot of points so far in his career. Even if he hadn't gotten past in turn 1 he would have into 4.
This was a classic Ham vs. Ros. We saw it so often, but it simply worked as Ros was always avoiding the touch if he could (except Spa). Nothing wrong from Ves here.
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Wait people saying Vettel and Ercisson driver of the day? GTFO with that lol. Gasly DOTD no question about it! This is a rookie remember! If it was Alonso who did what he did everyone will be saying " Only Alonso could take that car up there" It really annoys me that others cant get this sort of credit. Remember this is a rookie and he was pulling over a 8 tenths a lap on Alonso per lap. What does Gasly have to do to get credit?

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
08 Apr 2018, 19:40
Congrats to vettel. Great racecraft there.
Bottas was useless. Lewis would had had Vettel in a few laps. It was on a platter and Bottas wasted it.

Great drives by Gasly and Alonso. Makes you wonder what's making up the perfromance, the Toro Roso chassis or Honda engine?
If I remember correctly Lewis couldn't overtake Kimi at Brasil last year with much fresher tires and fresh special engine.
or Vettel at Baku etc...

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If someone had spent the last month in a coma, it would be hard to explain Alonso in 4th and McLaren in 3rd on drivers' and constructors' championships.

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ripper wrote:
08 Apr 2018, 19:34
GPR-A wrote:
08 Apr 2018, 19:30
ripper wrote:
08 Apr 2018, 19:27


Yes I saw the video, but I didn't link it here because it might hurt someone. Very painful... poor guy. Maybe it is time to change something on pit stops?
Unless, a standard time for tyre change is set, something like 5 second minimum time to change tyres, the situation is going become nightmare. if the pit lane speed was revised to ensure safety, surely the stationery time can be set too. It would also cut down the cost of unnecessary innovation on those wheel guns, which is not something the industry outside would be interested.
This could be a solution, also some errors like Haas double retirement could be avoided in this way.
With Liberty at the helm my guess is that the pit crews will be reduced to six, nascar style. It would even make some sense. Not having to watch 14 people increases the overview, and reduces the chance of mistakes like this. And it is a natural way to bring the pit stop times up.

Actually I would not mind that much. The only thing is that the higher the pit stop penalty, the less pit stops and different strategies we will see.

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Hamilton had a very bad start and first lap, from being way too cautious in the first corner and getting overtaken by Alonso and Verstappen he was very fortunate to get 3rd place.

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Great race, who said F1 races are boring, who said you can't overtake? Great Great Race, bravo F1
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DiogoBrand wrote:
08 Apr 2018, 21:43
If someone had spent the last month in a coma, it would be hard to explain Alonso in 4th and McLaren in 3rd on drivers' and constructors' championships.
They could have won with a Honda engine :evil:
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ClarkBT11 wrote:
08 Apr 2018, 21:10
TwanV wrote:
08 Apr 2018, 20:50
Totally irrelevant, I could post the same fragments of Hamilton shannanigans throughout his career. Sorry to tell you tag, this was a non-DRS pass that's the only difference. max had his wheels in front of Hamilton before the apex. The rule book is quite clear on those situations.
Verstappen completed the pass. The majority of opinions presented are that Verstappen was too aggressive or spatially unaware on how much space to leave another driver. The problem is it was a racing incident that was unnecessary.
Exactly. It was done, Verstappen had the corner, he then straightened the wheel and went even wider to the very confines of the track. Hamilton had nowhere to go, is he supposed to go onto the grass and risk spinning and taking them both out? Verstappen was far too aggressive, it’s bizarre that he says Hamilton had room when he literally drove straight to the edge of the track. A car may be ahead but that doesn’t mean the other car can disappear.