2014-2020 Formula One 1.6l V6 turbo engine formula

[Big Tea]

If you want to have it rotating, you'll probably have to design some sort of bearing with lubrication etc. Otherwise you may find it throwing metal particles into the piston, causing excessive wear and what not. Another question is what happens with the (unpowered?) moving head during combustion. It will probably keep rotating, so that's allright, but it needs be able to withstand all the forces working upon it as well.

And the final question, is the current atomization so 'bad', it needs further refining/optimization with a rotating injector nozzle?

Can I ask a question on this which is beyond my knowledge so may be stupid? (I do not know the correct terms either)

Would a similar effect be achieved by directing one of the 'jets' onto a shaped surface? Possibly even a surface retaining more heat and activating or 'vaporising' (wrong word sorry as it is already a vapor, or just an aerosol?) the fuel into a 'cloud'

I'm not sure there is enough time available in the intake/compression stroke to inject fuel in this way. Furthermore you like to keep the fuel off any surface to minimize heat transfer to the head and cylinder walls.

Thanks for humoring me, I like to ask things I don't know

[godlameroso]

Natural EGR will retain some unrreacted radicals, and also help vaporize the fuel of the incoming mixture.

[ringo]

Looks like a V6 engine with no MGUH for the next formula.

I was hoping for a super charged, direct injected v10 with KERS.
This would have given the fans the great sound, but also not regress too much on the high pressure and lean burn technology.

[GhostF1]

Looks like a V6 engine with no MGUH for the next formula.

I was hoping for a super charged, direct injected v10 with KERS.
This would have given the fans the great sound, but also not regress too much on the high pressure and lean burn technology.

To be honest, the engines this year have improved pretty massively in sound. And the technology gets me far more excited over the NA era.

Apparently removing the MGU-H will improve the sound again. And the forced RPM increase. It can only get more exciting.

[gruntguru]

To be honest, the engines this year have improved pretty massively in sound. And the technology gets me far more excited over the NA era.

Yes. Not much in a NA F1 engine that can't be found in other formulae.

[henry]

The removal of the MGU-H will certainly make it easier to understand with only 2 peak powers rather than 4, and 1 recharge route rather than 3.

But lower complexity will make it much less interesting. But we can see from the FOM coverage that technical interest is low down the priorities. A pole lap video with no telemetry is pretty meaningless to me.

[McHonda]

AMuS reckon they know how the oil was being introduced to the combustion process.

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... tor-power/

Meanwhile, it is also known how the oil tricksters have practiced in the past. A seal in the compressor of the turbocharger was deliberately "leaking" designed so that a pre-calculated amount of oil could enter the combustion chamber.

Does this have any relation to those Honda failures that talked about oil blowing or something along those lines and that was just thought to be lost in translation and debated what Hasegawa meant by it or was that something different?

[hemichromis]

How do we expect fuel consumption to be affected by the removal of the MGU-H?

Could the racing be even more fuel limited?

[Big Tea]

AMuS reckon they know how the oil was being introduced to the combustion process.

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... tor-power/

Meanwhile, it is also known how the oil tricksters have practiced in the past. A seal in the compressor of the turbocharger was deliberately "leaking" designed so that a pre-calculated amount of oil could enter the combustion chamber.

Does this have any relation to those Honda failures that talked about oil blowing or something along those lines and that was just thought to be lost in translation and debated what Hasegawa meant by it or was that something different?

I find it hard to follow the logic of this as a reliable method. Anyone please feel free to help me out.

The turbo will be running as a constant throughout the race and qualli and there would be no method of varying the amount of leak ( unless there was some sort of sealed unit able to control the pressure ) for all times the engine is running.

There could be no 'qualli mode' or 'Party mode' and the same amount of oil would be going in throughout the qualli and whole race if required or not.

[MrPotatoHead]

AMuS reckon they know how the oil was being introduced to the combustion process.

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... tor-power/

Meanwhile, it is also known how the oil tricksters have practiced in the past. A seal in the compressor of the turbocharger was deliberately "leaking" designed so that a pre-calculated amount of oil could enter the combustion chamber.

Does this have any relation to those Honda failures that talked about oil blowing or something along those lines and that was just thought to be lost in translation and debated what Hasegawa meant by it or was that something different?

I find it hard to follow the logic of this as a reliable method. Anyone please feel free to help me out.

The turbo will be running as a constant throughout the race and qualli and there would be no method of varying the amount of leak ( unless there was some sort of sealed unit able to control the pressure ) for all times the engine is running.

There could be no 'qualli mode' or 'Party mode' and the same amount of oil would be going in throughout the qualli and whole race if required or not.

It's bogus imo. And a very unreliable way to do it as you point out.

[sosic2121]

AMuS reckon they know how the oil was being introduced to the combustion process.

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... tor-power/



Does this have any relation to those Honda failures that talked about oil blowing or something along those lines and that was just thought to be lost in translation and debated what Hasegawa meant by it or was that something different?

I find it hard to follow the logic of this as a reliable method. Anyone please feel free to help me out.

The turbo will be running as a constant throughout the race and qualli and there would be no method of varying the amount of leak ( unless there was some sort of sealed unit able to control the pressure ) for all times the engine is running.

There could be no 'qualli mode' or 'Party mode' and the same amount of oil would be going in throughout the qualli and whole race if required or not.

It's bogus imo. And a very unreliable way to do it as you point out.

Could they vary the pressure of oil that goes into turbo?
Is it legal?

[MrPotatoHead]

I don't know of any rules that would prevent that.
But given how fragile the MGU-H can be I doubt anyone would comprise it for any pressure changing controlled leakage.
Another thing to take into account is that as the turbo pressure goes up leakage would go down because of the pressure differential.
Unless you had some dedicated oil pump just for the turbo that increased pressure to match the turbo output pressure.
But you would also need a way to increase the flow as rpm went up... or you would get less benefit from this "leak" ass rpm increased.

More bogus F1 fantasy (the article that is not your post).

[sosic2121]

I don't know of any rules that would prevent that.
But given how fragile the MGU-H can be I doubt anyone would comprise it for any pressure changing controlled leakage.
Another thing to take into account is that as the turbo pressure goes up leakage would go down because of the pressure differential.
Unless you had some dedicated oil pump just for the turbo that increased pressure to match the turbo output pressure.
But you would also need a way to increase the flow as rpm went up... or you would get less benefit from this "leak" ass rpm increased.

More bogus F1 fantasy (the article that is not your post).

I forgot about air pressure within a turbo

Did Ferrari give up on split turbo and went with MGU-H, compressor, turbine arrangement?
Then they would have to have seal between compressor and MGU-H and this seal would not be subjected to compressor air pressure, only ambient pressure?
Am I reaching to far?

[NL_Fer]

I think a few extra (switchable) oil sprinklers to “cool” the pistons in the sump would be sufficient enough. Converting oil in fumes to be sucked in by the venttube.

[godlameroso]

I think a few extra (switchable) oil sprinklers to “cool” the pistons in the sump would be sufficient enough. Converting oil in fumes to be sucked in by the venttube.

You mean overpressurizing the oil squirters to overwhelm the rings?