Formula E

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I only visit the Berlin e-prix, three years ago and last year too (live in B), it wasn't quite free, but very very reasonably priced (less dan 40 euros for me and my wife) for the non-grandstand/VIP areas. Have to say, they manage to make visitors feel pretty welcome,and we could even go out, get some food, get in again, no problem. If you live near the race, have time and like cars (and my wife doesn't, but indulging me, lack of engine noise and general atmosphere made it great for her too) I think you'll have a great time.

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Phil wrote:
06 May 2018, 10:19
Just found out that Formula-e is coming to ‘my city’ (Zurich/Switzerland) on June 10th! Really excited and didnt know where else to post this.

Has anyone else visited a F-e race yet? Naturally, all the grandstand tickets are sold out, but apparently along the track you can watch for free (though i assume you probably wont see much?).
On a typical FE track you can get quite close to the action, and the "action density" (number of significant things happening per 100 m of track) is quite high. I recommend trying it.

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Some more Gen2 car pics... and two short videos!!

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Short video
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/987269647203491841

And second one:

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@bosyber and @bill shoe
Thank you both for your advice and input! Well appreciated! I will definitely visit (at the expense of missing the F1 Canadian GP unfortunately), but will be sure to post some experience and possibly some pictures! :)
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3 things about the car that stand out to me...
1. huge rear diffusers
2. the low profile tires
3. I'm surprised how small the front brake discs are as compared to F1. They're smaller than ones I've seen on most passenger sports cars.

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I wish they'd keep car swaps and double the power instead. I also wish they'd started using proper racing slicks...
Both could be easily done...

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I can´t disagree more, car swaps are main reason I don´t follow FE right now, it makes huge differences wich can´t be compensated on the track and to me it does kill the racing

And tires are great like they are, no marbles, dirty zones are almost clean so different lines and overtaking are possible, no strategic differences wich makes all cars equally competitive and it´s all a matter of driver and setup


Actually those are possibly the best and worst part of FE right now to me :mrgreen:

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Andres125sx wrote:
10 May 2018, 08:59
I can´t disagree more, car swaps are main reason I don´t follow FE right now, it makes huge differences wich can´t be compensated on the track and to me it does kill the racing

And tires are great like they are, no marbles, dirty zones are almost clean so different lines and overtaking are possible, no strategic differences wich makes all cars equally competitive and it´s all a matter of driver and setup


Actually those are possibly the best and worst part of FE right now to me :mrgreen:
There are noises about next season which are starting to worry me as a fan. I quite enjoy the car swap, because it plays into the strategy, the drivers have to do a lot of energy saving and regen but then, if they've done a good enough job, ahead of the pit stop they can attack. Because the next car will be more powerful, has double the battery storage and cars can comfortably do the race on 1 set of tyres, I see this strategic element going missing, so we end up with F1 style processions. For me at least FE is producing some of the most exciting racing in international motorsport - at least when the drivers aren't driving each other into the walls...

Agag has mentioned the possibility of 'mario kart' style laps coming, so almost like a joker lap but afterwards they get more power. This worries me. What I like at the moment is that it just has enough normalcy to tolerate the gimmicks like fan boost. Next season I may lose interest.

I'm also worried about the new car, being faster and higher downforce, overtaking opportunities are undoubtedly going to fall, which is why they're mentioning mario kart I suppose.
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Andres125sx wrote:
10 May 2018, 08:59
I can´t disagree more, car swaps are main reason I don´t follow FE right now, it makes huge differences wich can´t be compensated on the track and to me it does kill the racing

And tires are great like they are, no marbles, dirty zones are almost clean so different lines and overtaking are possible, no strategic differences wich makes all cars equally competitive and it´s all a matter of driver and setup


Actually those are possibly the best and worst part of FE right now to me :mrgreen:
Not watching it explains partly why talk BS. Car swaps have no negative effect on racing.
Decent racing slick don't leave much marbles either. Pirelli's just incapable of producing such...

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jjn9128 wrote:
10 May 2018, 13:01
Andres125sx wrote:
10 May 2018, 08:59
I can´t disagree more, car swaps are main reason I don´t follow FE right now, it makes huge differences wich can´t be compensated on the track and to me it does kill the racing

And tires are great like they are, no marbles, dirty zones are almost clean so different lines and overtaking are possible, no strategic differences wich makes all cars equally competitive and it´s all a matter of driver and setup


Actually those are possibly the best and worst part of FE right now to me :mrgreen:
There are noises about next season which are starting to worry me as a fan. I quite enjoy the car swap, because it plays into the strategy, the drivers have to do a lot of energy saving and regen but then, if they've done a good enough job, ahead of the pit stop they can attack. Because the next car will be more powerful, has double the battery storage and cars can comfortably do the race on 1 set of tyres, I see this strategic element going missing, so we end up with F1 style processions. For me at least FE is producing some of the most exciting racing in international motorsport - at least when the drivers aren't driving each other into the walls...

Agag has mentioned the possibility of 'mario kart' style laps coming, so almost like a joker lap but afterwards they get more power. This worries me. What I like at the moment is that it just has enough normalcy to tolerate the gimmicks like fan boost. Next season I may lose interest.

I'm also worried about the new car, being faster and higher downforce, overtaking opportunities are undoubtedly going to fall, which is why they're mentioning mario kart I suppose.
I can´t see what´s the problem with a race without a car swap. As you said yourself, double energy to double race distance, but higher power, wich means they´ll need more energy saving and regen.

About F1 style processions, that´s not the case now, so shouldn´t be next season. Gen2 cars will produce more downforce, but without wings comparable to F1, so I´m excited about the result, this is what I´ve been waiting for many years, we´ll see what´s the result


mzso, you can´t differ BS from opinion, nor watching from following, so I´ll save the forum from an useless discussion

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Interesting, didn´t know new batteries for Gen2 car will double the energy, but at similar weight and volume, I was assuming it will be much bigger and heavier, but I was wrong

This is a huge step forward wich may be a revolution when these batteries reach production cars, imagine doubling the range of any current electric car =P~

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edit: if someone has any further info about this new batteries, please share!

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I'm surprised how small the front brake discs are as compared to F1. They're smaller than ones I've seen on most passenger sports cars.
I have to admit that I haven't followed it closely but my guess would be that it is because of the light weight of the cars and the superior materials used for discs and pads. To keep weight as low as possible they would I think pare it down as much as they can and also to keep the unsprung weight down.
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They may be equivocal to other open wheel series' disc diameters. The large diameter wheels however are unique to FE, and make the discs look small.

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strad wrote:
10 May 2018, 22:24
I'm surprised how small the front brake discs are as compared to F1. They're smaller than ones I've seen on most passenger sports cars.
I have to admit that I haven't followed it closely but my guess would be that it is because of the light weight of the cars and the superior materials used for discs and pads. To keep weight as low as possible they would I think pare it down as much as they can and also to keep the unsprung weight down.
Seems likely that - no repeated hard braking from ~350 km/h, for a much longer race - would have a fair bit to do with it..
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GTO99 wrote:
09 May 2018, 23:22
3 things about the car that stand out to me...
1. huge rear diffusers
2. the low profile tires (not new)
3. I'm surprised how small the front brake discs are as compared to F1. They're smaller than ones I've seen on most passenger sports cars.
The brakes aren't smaller, you're noticing the difference of inner wheel area of a 18" wheel compared to other Formula cars that use a 13' wheel. If you recall back in 2011 when Pirelli tested 18" wheels on an F1 car, the brakes were comically undersized compared to the inner wheel area.