No they have been using them since fp1.Monster Hesh wrote: ↑12 May 2018, 22:34I'm curious, did Ferrari to any trials during free practice without the mirror winglets?
Yeah, it's nuts.roon wrote: ↑12 May 2018, 21:54https://cdn-3.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... mirror.jpgJust_a_fan wrote: ↑12 May 2018, 20:53What's not ok is sticking a big aero winglet on the mounting stalk.
https://cdn-6.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... detail.jpg
Further lessons, this one a bit more confusing:
Sticking a big aero winglet on the mounting stalk: not OK.
Sticking a big aero winglet on the mounting stalk: OK.
Jesus, are you serious?roon wrote: ↑12 May 2018, 20:44And let's not forget Force India's solution. Purely structural, no doubt.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LIQafJHkuJg/ ... 9%2Bx2.jpg
The lesson being...
Connecting the mirrors to the sidepod crash stucture cover: OK.
Connecting the mirrors to the halo structure cover: not OK.
That's not attached to the mounting stalkroon wrote: ↑12 May 2018, 21:54https://cdn-3.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... mirror.jpgJust_a_fan wrote: ↑12 May 2018, 20:53What's not ok is sticking a big aero winglet on the mounting stalk.
https://cdn-6.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... detail.jpg
Further lessons, this one a bit more confusing:
Sticking a big aero winglet on the mounting stalk: not OK.
Sticking a big aero winglet on the mounting stalk: OK.
Look again. They are very much attached "in 3 dimensions."bonjon1979 wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 01:54Jesus, are you serious?roon wrote: ↑12 May 2018, 20:44And let's not forget Force India's solution. Purely structural, no doubt.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LIQafJHkuJg/ ... 9%2Bx2.jpg
The lesson being...
Connecting the mirrors to the sidepod crash stucture cover: OK.
Connecting the mirrors to the halo structure cover: not OK.
Just because in a photo if you have one object in front of another in 2 dimensions it looks like they’re attached. It does not actually mean they are attached in 3 dimensions. The force India strakes are on top of the side pod a good half foot ahead of the mirrors. Likewise the Mercedes mirrors on the following page. Get a grips
Isn't the "main function" determined by the engineer, and not the observer?.poz wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 13:35About the mirror i think they banned it because the "main function" of the upper plate it's not structural but aerodynamic. We can argue about force india solution and if two connection with the side pod are really needed for structural reasons... f1 rules are too open to interpretation
If it was mainly structural it wouldn't have been shaped to direct air in a certain way...they could have made a structural, aerodynamically neutral piece but they didn't. They put on a big wing shaped piece that is obviously designed to direct the air flow around it.Zynerji wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 14:16Isn't the "main function" determined by the engineer, and not the observer?.poz wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 13:35About the mirror i think they banned it because the "main function" of the upper plate it's not structural but aerodynamic. We can argue about force india solution and if two connection with the side pod are really needed for structural reasons... f1 rules are too open to interpretation
These slippery slopes need to be avoided at all times.