2018 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, May 11-13

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Gothrek wrote:
13 May 2018, 17:26
PhillipM wrote:
13 May 2018, 17:24
Nobody has got on top of the tyres this year yet, they seem pretty sensitive.
Pirelli changing them for Mercedes surely doesn't help.
Everybody had blistering tyres in the winter tests not only Mercedes!
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
13 May 2018, 17:29
Gothrek wrote:
13 May 2018, 17:26
PhillipM wrote:
13 May 2018, 17:24
Nobody has got on top of the tyres this year yet, they seem pretty sensitive.
Pirelli changing them for Mercedes surely doesn't help.
Everybody had blistering tyres in the winter tests not only Mercedes!
Arrivabene on the new tyres: "It's not in Ferrari's DNA to complain. We haven't done so. Having said that, Toto can say what he wants, but a clarification: there is a difference between being consulted and being informed. We have been informed, not consulted"

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Yes. Didnt you know? These tires were already used in Melbourne. And at all races last year where Mercedes won. :P

Speaking of which, damn Pirelli for changing the construction in 2013 when Vettel suddenly went off a winning spree too. Oh wait, that doesnt count, as that didnt benefit Mercedes.
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MY PROPHECY: When the circus moves to Monaco, where Mercedes is most likely going to fail, would be a GREAT OPPORTUNITY for the moaning and crying guys here, to then keep merrying around saying, how the Tyres helped Mercedes in Spain! :lol:

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Xwang wrote:
13 May 2018, 17:26
Vettel165 wrote:
13 May 2018, 17:23
How can a car from being dominant ala Ferrari (Vettel) Baku style in the race goes to more than half second slower in 2 weeks time I dont undestand. Its the tyres, mark my words.
Tyre specifically made for Mercedes.

I wonder if Pirelli will keep to secretly use this tyres also in the other GP so that to give better help to its partner Mercedes.
Oh please, both of you take your tinfoil hats off.
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GPR-A wrote:
13 May 2018, 17:30
MY PROPHECY: When the circus moves to Monaco, where Mercedes is most likely going to fail, would be a GREAT OPPORTUNITY for the moaning and crying guys here, to then keep merrying around saying, how the Tyres helped Mercedes in Spain! :lol:
No, we need to wait and see in France what situation is to compare the effect.... Oh wait

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Xwang wrote:
13 May 2018, 17:26
Vettel165 wrote:
13 May 2018, 17:23
How can a car from being dominant ala Ferrari (Vettel) Baku style in the race goes to more than half second slower in 2 weeks time I dont undestand. Its the tyres, mark my words.
Tyre specifically made for Mercedes.

I wonder if Pirelli will keep to secretly use this tyres also in the other GP so that to give better help to its partner Mercedes.
i was wondering what will ferrari fan boys say if Merc becomes dominant in other races also.....well....here is your answer :lol: :lol: :lol:

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JPBD1990 wrote:
13 May 2018, 17:29
Arrivabene on the new tyres: "It's not in Ferrari's DNA to complain. We haven't done so.
They just like to run to uncle FIA, and complain in the form of questions!
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Which every other team does.

This is just childish. Why does every thread get so childish after a time?

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In all honesty though: Ferrari apparently was fuel saving during winter testing on this track - perhaps again this race, hence the (much) slower race pace?

Oh and i called the one-stop right :P
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Explanation for Ferrari's strategy

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Villeneuve on Italian Sky has just told:"... Everybody (I have spoken) knew before the GP that this change (tyre) would have helped Mercedes ..".
But for sure he is a Ferrari fan too.

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Xwang wrote:
13 May 2018, 17:43
Villeneuve on Italian Sky has just told:"... Everybody (I have spoken) knew before the GP that this change (tyre) would have helped Mercedes ..".
But for sure he is a Ferrari fan too.
Most of the tyre tests in 2017 preseason were done by Vettel and Ferrari...and there were roumors that pirelli made tyres to suit their car. Also in 2013 pirelli changed the tyres mid season and Vettel went on to win the next 9 out of 10 races.

To quote Vettel himself
"What goes around comes around"
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From Formula1:

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/head ... ul-ri.html
formula1.com wrote:Formula 1’s governing body the FIA has given F1 tyre suppliers Pirelli the green light to reduce the tread depth on their slick tyres by 0.4 millimetres at three races this year in a bid to combat overheating issues.

Pirelli found in pre-season testing that the new asphalt at Spain’s Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya produced more grip and less tyre wear, which means more rubber stayed on the tyre which in turn can lead to surface overheating.

As Great Britain’s Silverstone and France’s Paul Ricard circuits also feature new asphalt for this season, like Barcelona, Pirelli opted to reduce the tread depth, and therefore the amount of rubber on the tyre, for those three races.

“This was a recommendation that we ourselves brought to the FIA – as we have done in the past at some races – because it is less disruptive than nominating harder compounds, which was the alternative,” said Pirelli’s Head of Car Racing, Mario Isola.

“Apart from making a set of tyres weigh around one kilogram less, there is no appreciable difference in performance; so in effect this is an ‘invisible’ change.

“It only applies to the three races in Spain, France and Britain: there is no alteration to the tyre specification planned for any other events.

"We tested the solution last year, and in terms of performance or other consequences, they are almost transparent.

"Obviously the reason we stayed on the standard tyre for this year was in normal circumstances you wear the tyre, and if you don't have enough thickness, you wear the tyre too quickly."

This is not the first time Pirelli have made such a request - the tyre supplier reduced the tread depth in 2011 and 2012 for the Belgian and Italian Grands Prix.
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Today Ferrari shot to his feet. Many points lost and now Hamilton is getting far away