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This all stems back to the rumored 20kw increase early in the season.Big Tea wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 13:54Again its 'whispers'.
The article says~
The Japanese manufacturer has been expected to give partner Toro Rosso an update for the power-sensitive race, which Autosport reported that Honda hoped would be worth around 27bhp.
This (the bold part) links to this~
-Honda's F1 technical director Toyoharu Tanabe told Autosport he wants the result to "give us much more energy to develop for the future".
Autosport understands Honda is targeting a step of around 27bhp for the Canadian Grand Prix in June
So they are citing themselves with the 'targeted' power increase.
Every little helps, but it would be nice if we knew the figures for all of them.
As mentioned in the other thread, to justify this article Autosport cites an April 10 article from themselves https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13530 ... eakthrough which, as dren suggests, relates back to the earlier 20kw rumored increase from the start of the season viewtopic.php?f=1&t=26921&start=825#p769464Wouter wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 13:43Finally a word from Tanabe:
Honda reveals Formula 1 engine upgrade for Canadian Grand Prix.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13654 ... anadian-gpHonda has revealed its Formula 1 engine upgrade for the Canadian Grand Prix is centred around improvements to its internal combustion engine.
The Japanese manufacturer has been expected to give partner Toro Rosso an update for the power-sensitive race, which Autosport reported that Honda hoped would be worth around 27bhp.
Honda stressed it would be careful not to hurt the reliability of its power unit in the pursuit of performance but, ahead of the Montreal race, technical director Toyoharu Tanabe confirmed Honda's upgrade - focused around its internal combustion engine - would be implemented.
"We are introducing an updated PU for this event, fitting it to both cars," said Tanabe.
"The updates are mainly to the ICE, focusing on improving performance. The Montreal circuit is known for its long straights, where over 60% of the lap is spent at full throttle.
"There are slow corners after the long straights and this means that good driveability is again important as is rapid turbo response.
"All these features mean that the power unit is one of the key elements here, which is why it has traditionally been the venue for engine manufacturers to introduce updates."
This is the point of this article: "We are introducing an updated PU for this event, fitting it to both cars," said Tanabe.nzjrs wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 15:54...
As mentioned in the other thread, to justify this article Autosport cites an April 10 article from themselves https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13530 ... eakthrough which, as dren suggests, relates back to the earlier 20kw rumored increase from the start of the season viewtopic.php?f=1&t=26921&start=825#p769464
In other words, there is no new information here, and Autosport is just recycling old articles to capitalise on the expectations of gullible readers.
What a f*n joke.
Honda: Axel Wendorff is the new chief of engineers
Axel Wendorff has been working since April as the new chief engineer of Honda Racing F1, according to the Greek journalist Dimi Papadopoulos. His signing is an enriching move for Honda, because it is one of the architects of the Mercedes engine, since he worked for the power units department of Brixworth before the hybrid era.
The German Wendorff will work in this regard at the European headquarters of Honda, in Milton Keynes. After starting to work as a designer for Mercedes-Ilmor between 1994 and 1996, he went on to occupy the position of head of engine design at Toyota until 2003, before becoming the chief engineer of the Mercedes-Benz engine department between 2004 and 2009. , between 2008 and 2015 he served McLaren in different positions.
http://soymotor.com/noticias/honda-se-r ... des-950041
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/honda ... -/3116921/
That to me reads that the deal with Red Bull will most probably happen, if not already done.HPD wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 17:29Honda: Axel Wendorff is the new chief of engineers
Axel Wendorff has been working since April as the new chief engineer of Honda Racing F1, according to the Greek journalist Dimi Papadopoulos. His signing is an enriching move for Honda, because it is one of the architects of the Mercedes engine, since he worked for the power units department of Brixworth before the hybrid era.
The German Wendorff will work in this regard at the European headquarters of Honda, in Milton Keynes. After starting to work as a designer for Mercedes-Ilmor between 1994 and 1996, he went on to occupy the position of head of engine design at Toyota until 2003, before becoming the chief engineer of the Mercedes-Benz engine department between 2004 and 2009. , between 2008 and 2015 he served McLaren in different positions.
http://soymotor.com/noticias/honda-se-r ... des-950041
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/honda ... -/3116921/
I believe it was 0.5s due to the new PU and fuel alone... but my Japanese is rusty:
The article says Honda and Renault are around 960 before the updates. So the real number after the update may be... around 980-985 for Honda?? And how much time per lap or during the race they will be able to deliever that power?? That's the real question, not numbersRevs84 wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 20:21http://www.marca.com/motor/formula1/gp- ... b456d.html
If this article is anything to go by, Honda will now be around 960bhp, on par with Renault.
The proof of the pudding is in the eating though and finally we will know soon if Honda's update will really deliver.
If they really bring this upgrade, it will be well and good of course, but I'm sure that another factor which Red Bull in particular will be looking for is reliability; something which this year, Renault has already been struggling with.
You forgot Petronasdodds_turbo wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 13:55So is 'Mercedes AMG F1 W08 EQ Power+' but Toto didn't seem to mind.
Check out @HondaRacingF1’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/HondaRacingF1/statu ... 40096?s=09makecry wrote: ↑07 Jun 2018, 03:27https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opin ... 3933012293
Mark Hughes says that the update is delayed till France.
Tanabe himself told the upgrade is ready and will be on the 2 cars. No matter what press say If the chief of Honda F1 says it's ready for Canadá...makecry wrote: ↑07 Jun 2018, 03:27https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opin ... 3933012293
Mark Hughes says that the update is delayed till France.
Just saw the tweet from Honda F1. I guess, finally we are seeing the progress we have been waiting for since so long.Marti_EF3 wrote: ↑07 Jun 2018, 07:34Tanabe himself told the upgrade is ready and will be on the 2 cars. No matter what press say If the chief of Honda F1 says it's ready for Canadá...makecry wrote: ↑07 Jun 2018, 03:27https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opin ... 3933012293
Mark Hughes says that the update is delayed till France.
Mercedes, on the other hand, delayed the upgrade to France due to reliability problems... Maybe he got confused...or only searching a few visits more