NL_Fer wrote: ↑18 Jun 2018, 20:54
Torro Rosso uses the same suspension/gearbox concept as Redbull for years now. They have shown strong performances on non-aero tracks in the past. Any gains/developments found on the current STR Honda gearbox will help Redbull in 2019.
Also think about collecting and analysing information about the engine/gearbox, the more budget, the more people in this department. They will increase the amount of engineers, to gather as much information as possible.
That's not true, suspension has been always different bar first few years and gearbox is only about internal provided by Red Bull Technologies, not casing.
https://cdn-4.motorsport.com/images/amp ... 942338.jpg
https://www.thecheckeredflag.co.uk/wp-c ... sso-01.jpg
James Key, most likely at Abu Dhabi 2017
"There's a lot more going on at STR than people think," he said. "People don't know STR, it's really frustrating.
"Although it makes a lot of sense to join together [with Red Bull] where you can, we've got our own aero department in Bicester, with our own windtunnel, and that's entirely independent because it has to be legally.
"The entire design of the car is done in Faenza - the only bit of the car that comes from RBT is the gearbox internals which are jointly designed, because there are often things that we specifically need."
http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/133556
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Of course RBR and STR are/were collaborating on some aspects and there is clear benefit in using same engine as they themselves have been explaining and to such extent is within anyone's guess, but some opinions are going way overboard.
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Franz Tost, Jan 2016, when STR had to change engine to the year old Ferrari for 2016 season
But a further complication for Toro Rosso is that, in no longer having the same engine supplier, there is now less cooperation that Faenza can do with Red Bull.
“Unfortunately yes,” said Tost. “For example, before we worked together on the hydraulics and now we have to do everything ourselves. Our cooperation will be less intense.”
https://www.grandprix247.com/2016/01/27 ... al-trends/
James Key, March 2018, on the effect of possible RBR-Honda deal in future for STR
“I think it’s an opportunity to work closer together on certain aspects which would be good for both teams, so in that respect I have no issues with it,”
“We have a separate deal to whatever Red Bull would have, it’s not a combined contract, it’s an STR contract for three years as a works deal. I think if Red Bull came on board it could only be added to that for us.”
“It was a decision made jointly in some way I suppose. The teams are owned by the same company and that was a company decision in that respect. I think for us to be honest we’ve been keeping up with Honda for several years. We’ve very much wanted to work with them.
“What Red Bull Racing do is ultimately their decision in the end but if we can share an engine supplier it would be very good. It’s not a tricky decision or anything like that, no.”
https://racer.com/2018/03/05/red-bull-h ... ks-status/
appx.
Franz Tost on how STR and Honda are working, China 2018
Franz, are there Honda engineers based in Faenza?
FT: No, the Honda engineers are based… some of them are based in Milton Keynes, because Honda has there as well an R&D department, but most of them are in Sakura and our engineers are flying to Sakura, to Japan when there is a special programme on the dyno or wherever because we are now much more involved also in the dyno runnings. We started already in November/December with the gearbox, and engine and gearbox tests and gearshifts and all this kind of stuff and we also are currently running a programme in Sakura.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/head ... china.html