2018 Force India F1 Team - Mercedes

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Potential sale of SFI is important precisely because this team has been extremely well managed over the last 3 or 4 seasons and punched above their weight. Yes, it looks clear they need to sell, but no joy in that. Potential sale matters because if SFI doesn't sell or sells to a buyer who's just trying to flip it, then it becomes a zombie-team like Lotus during the last 1-2 years before Renault bought them back, or like Sauber over the last 2 or 3 years when they were trawling for qualified buyers and living on a shoestring.

Don't let this midfield success story turn into another zombie team!

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Rated negatively for talking about the team in the team thread?? Just because something bores you, doesn't make it "not pertinent".
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bill shoe wrote:
20 Jun 2018, 15:54
Potential sale of SFI is important precisely because this team has been extremely well managed over the last 3 or 4 seasons and punched above their weight. Yes, it looks clear they need to sell, but no joy in that. Potential sale matters because if SFI doesn't sell or sells to a buyer who's just trying to flip it, then it becomes a zombie-team like Lotus during the last 1-2 years before Renault bought them back, or like Sauber over the last 2 or 3 years when they were trawling for qualified buyers and living on a shoestring.

Don't let this midfield success story turn into another zombie team!
They can bring in other measures to counter smaller teams from running out of money, like a budget cap or timely Grand Prix prize money distribution. Sauber suffered the same fate last season, due to lack of funds they were uncompetitive. This buying-selling logic only seems to alleviate the bottleneck for the time being.

Can you also predict if some new owner with their own style of management doesn't go the paid driver route like Williams have and become a back-maker team?

We have to acknowledge to the fact that the reason this team has punched consistently above their waist is because the current management's unflinching vision to be competitive without cutting corners either in terms of drivers they recruit or the car's components they have procured from vendors.
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adrianjordan wrote:
20 Jun 2018, 17:19
Rated negatively for talking about the team in the team thread?? Just because something bores you, doesn't make it "not pertinent".
Post legitimate articles then, rumors and hearsay shouldn't become mainstream news. Also don't take negative ratings personally, we're trying to maintain the conversations in the forum pertinent and clean.
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Paddock home season is back! Pics courtesy AmuS

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IamLegend wrote:
21 Jun 2018, 16:06
adrianjordan wrote:
20 Jun 2018, 17:19
Rated negatively for talking about the team in the team thread?? Just because something bores you, doesn't make it "not pertinent".
Post legitimate articles then, rumors and hearsay shouldn't become mainstream news. Also don't take negative ratings personally, we're trying to maintain the conversations in the forum pertinent and clean.
Well I do take it personally when people are posting rumours left right and centre. Especially given how polluted the McLaren and STR threads are with people who are stuck in the past and aren't getting rated down for it.

I wasn't even posting a rumour though. I was responding to someone saying that the team is hard to sell due to legal problems and I was pointing out that those problems are the owners, not the team and that IF the team was up for sale then there would be ways to get around those legal difficulties.
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Future owner sending a hint...

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roon wrote:
06 Jul 2018, 03:53
Future owner sending a hint...

https://imgr3.auto-motor-und-sport.de/L ... 174925.jpg
:?: :?: :?:

WHAT !!!!!

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SFi had some input into this Hypercar concept designed by an Indian firm Vazirani Automotive called the Shul. I'm unable to find more details, but it looks super cool though, debuted at the Goodwood festival of speed. But if anyone buys the new Gran Turismo PS4 game will probably be able to drive this baby virtually! In the looks department, it beats the Aston Martin designed by Red Bull's Adrian Newey IMO. :D

"Michelin has provided support for the car’s development, so the first concept is located at the tyre brand’s stand at Goodwood. Vazirani’s project, which has also received support from the Force India Formula 1 team, plans to begin testing its first prototype later this year."

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/moto ... c-hypercar

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IamLegend wrote:
19 Jul 2018, 15:22
In the looks department, it beats the Aston Martin designed by Red Bull's Adrian Newey IMO. :D
We'll have to agree to disagree on that one...
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Cool idea for the wheel fairings. Fan blades btwn the spokes.

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Manjhi wrote:
06 Jul 2018, 22:10
roon wrote:
06 Jul 2018, 03:53
Future owner sending a hint...

https://imgr3.auto-motor-und-sport.de/L ... 174925.jpg
:?: :?: :?:

WHAT !!!!!
never seen a man in pink, or do you feel insecure? :P
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bill shoe wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 19:54
things get worse...
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13758 ... evelopment
It's not looking good. We are used to this team punching above its weight, so I hope their financial issues will be resolved soon through a new owner or something.

Interesting bit about Ferrari-powered cars by the way
Szafnauer said Ferrari's recent upgrade, which has boosted Haas and Sauber, has made life even harder for Mercedes-powered Force India.

"It does put a premium. Even [Marcus] Ericsson was looking to overtake Esteban. Their powertrain has come on leaps and bounds," he said.

"Mercedes have done a fabulous job for us over the years, but all credit to Ferrari, I think they've probably got the most powerful powertrain in F1 now.

"To have Haas and Sauber get us down the straights is something new for us. It's an amazing powertrain. I just hope all those battery rumours have been put to bed."
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