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More details about McLaren's technical leadership changes are becoming public as it has now become clear that Toro Rosso's highly valued technical director, James Key, is set to join McLaren in the same role.
There is no logic with techman... he just keeps blabbering without logic and sense. You should put him on your ignore list as I did and enjoy life on the forum without banging your head about his posts. Back on topic: I really feel Alonso is out for 2019 to pursue Indy... That’s the final thing missing for his triple crown. So probably take 2019 as adjustment year and start winning some races if he gets good reliable machinery and 2020 full on attack on the 500. McLaren will miss him for sure but will probably have a bit less presure in having a competitive car when they will not have competitive drivers..
Andres125sx wrote: ↑21 Jun 2018, 17:12And you buy McLaren is 6 tenths down Renault?mclaren111 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2018, 15:27Andrew Benson:
A stat or two at the one-third point of the season: Fastest car, taking average of each team's fastest lap of a weekend: Ferrari. Mercedes +0.052; Red Bull +0.294; Renault +1.316; Force India +1.645; Has +1.764; McLaren +1.908; Toro Rosso +2.141; Sauber +2.564; Williams +2.659
Ouch
Hope we have a good weekend !!
Not even in saturdays IMO
The stupid move would be for Ricciardo, RB is a better option while other good doors are not open(Mercedes, Ferrari).
Norris will drive next year, the only question is who will be next to him.
It seems that they just believed what their engineers told them. Hyping themselves up doesn't make any sense, since leaving Honda would be costing them tenths of millions yearly.techman wrote: ↑22 Jun 2018, 06:37i dont know if you heard this but zak mentioned last year when they signed with renault, he said if the renault was in their car, thier simulations showed they were ahead in some races compared to redbull. personally thats got to show two things. either their simulation are wrong or they just like to hype themselves up. dont always belive what their engineers tell you.If they really decided to remove honda because of Alonso personal view and not by actual numbers and facts, then they should stop calling themselves a racing team. Their engineers should resign right now.
Dipesh1995 wrote: ↑22 Jun 2018, 09:18http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formul ... -work.html
Written by McEvoy so likely to be complete BS but yeah......
If it's not reported elsewhere, then it's likely not true, they're not called the Daily Fail for nothing.RonDennis wrote: ↑22 Jun 2018, 10:39Norris will drive next year, the only question is who will be next to him.
It seems that they just believed what their engineers told them. Hyping themselves up doesn't make any sense, since leaving Honda would be costing them tenths of millions yearly.techman wrote: ↑22 Jun 2018, 06:37i dont know if you heard this but zak mentioned last year when they signed with renault, he said if the renault was in their car, thier simulations showed they were ahead in some races compared to redbull. personally thats got to show two things. either their simulation are wrong or they just like to hype themselves up. dont always belive what their engineers tell you.If they really decided to remove honda because of Alonso personal view and not by actual numbers and facts, then they should stop calling themselves a racing team. Their engineers should resign right now.
Dipesh1995 wrote: ↑22 Jun 2018, 09:18http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formul ... -work.html
Written by McEvoy so likely to be complete BS but yeah......
Sadly I wouldn't even be surprised if it's true.
Yeah, I saw this come up on pitpass.com just now. I hope its not true but if it is....what is happening at Mclaren?dren wrote: ↑22 Jun 2018, 12:24Ouch if true:
The anonymous source claimed executives even appealed to staff to build prototypes out of wood if they had any ideas how to improve their sub-standard car.
Some of the staff planned to take their grievances to former team principal Martin Whitmarsh. (We have heard this happened, Mclaren even put out a press release about it)
‘That shows how clueless they are,’ added the employee. ‘They told us at the post-Canadian Grand Prix debrief that they knew what was wrong with the car but not how to fix it. They ask us when they are on six-figure salaries.
‘We call four of the management the “Untouchables”. There is Eric Boullier, racing director, Matt Morris, chief engineer, Simon Roberts, chief operating officer, and David Probyn, operations director. Some of them just walk about chatting. We have no respect for them. People are beginning to boycott the debriefs because they are a joke. The atmosphere is toxic. We would like to go on strike but people fear for their jobs.’
Somebody is cleary starting a campaign.johnny vee wrote: ↑22 Jun 2018, 13:03Yeah, I saw this come up on pitpass.com just now. I hope its not true but if it is....what is happening at Mclaren?dren wrote: ↑22 Jun 2018, 12:24Ouch if true:
The anonymous source claimed executives even appealed to staff to build prototypes out of wood if they had any ideas how to improve their sub-standard car.
Some of the staff planned to take their grievances to former team principal Martin Whitmarsh. (We have heard this happened, Mclaren even put out a press release about it)
‘That shows how clueless they are,’ added the employee. ‘They told us at the post-Canadian Grand Prix debrief that they knew what was wrong with the car but not how to fix it. They ask us when they are on six-figure salaries.
‘We call four of the management the “Untouchables”. There is Eric Boullier, racing director, Matt Morris, chief engineer, Simon Roberts, chief operating officer, and David Probyn, operations director. Some of them just walk about chatting. We have no respect for them. People are beginning to boycott the debriefs because they are a joke. The atmosphere is toxic. We would like to go on strike but people fear for their jobs.’
https://www.pitpass.com/62082/Sweets-le ... at-McLaren
