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my point was that lewis goes for the wins even when the points are enough and yet get critisized for doing so. and these are the same people who complain about lack of overtaking and the points system favoring consistency so that drivers don't take risk anymore. etc.
Wins alone cannot claim championships, so when there is very little potential for a win, points in whatever position available will do. Thats just how it is. It doesn't mean that drivers aren't taking risks, it merely means that they are using common sense and analyzing the situation at hand.
For example in Canada a few weeks ago, Massa drove like the devil himself was behind him even though he knew that a victory was unprobable. But sometimes you have to asses the situation and react accordingly (calm down, take it easy and take the points), otherwise even a simple mistake can cost you the little points possible.
And Monaco '07; Alonso and Hamilton battling it out almost taking each other out. Yes, thats driving for a win, but continuing like that will almost guarantee a DNF for both losing 18 points in the process. Especially in a circuit such as the one in Monaco with the armco so close.
As a popular saying in my family goes, "ni tan tan, ni muy muy". Pretty much "not so much, and not so little either".
mx_tifosi wrote:
And Monaco '07; Alonso and Hamilton battling it out almost taking each other out. Yes, thats driving for a win, but continuing like that will almost guarantee a DNF for both losing 18 points in the process. Especially in a circuit such as the one in Monaco with the armco so close.
Thanks, mx_tifosi. You just reminded me how delightful was watching the Macs last year in the swimming pool complex. Pure motor racing.
I am not amazed by F1 cars in Monaco. I want to see them driving in the A8 highway: Variable radius corners, negative banking, and extreme narrowings that Tilke has never dreamed off. Oh, yes, and "beautiful" weather tops it all.
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mx_tifosi wrote:
And Monaco '07; Alonso and Hamilton battling it out almost taking each other out. Yes, thats driving for a win, but continuing like that will almost guarantee a DNF for both losing 18 points in the process. Especially in a circuit such as the one in Monaco with the armco so close.
Thanks, mx_tifosi. You just reminded me how delightful was watching the Macs last year in the swimming pool complex. Pure motor racing.
So do you guys actually want people pushing for the win whatever it takes or just cruising around for points? I am confused. It seems Hamilton is doing exactly what everyone has been hoping a driver would do and he gets criticized for it.
It’s funny how F1 forum posts always turn into arguments about weather Hamilton is a good driver or not, weather he has the right attitude etc.
My purpose for starting this post was merely from a strategic point of view. If it was Kimi, Massa, Alonso or anyone else I would have asked the same simple question….What do people think is the best strategy to use given the 10 place grid penalty in France?
Any other track would have been a ‘no brainer’ but at France I felt a light fuel load could have been option albeit not a very good one.
It was Hamilton’s comments which lead me to believe he may go light, which he did – he was lighter than the Ferrari’s.
So in reference to going for points or a race win, a strategist would have said go heavy and get points. A race driver would have said I want to go light and try for a race win. There’s nothing wrong with either of them as both could be classed as correct form either viewpoint.
However, you need to be realistic and given the pace Ferrari had shown in practice I believe it was a mistake for McLaren to go light on this occasion and that’s how it proved to be (regardless of the drive through penalty as his race would still have been a poor one).
As it turned out Heikki had to fuel heavier and started down the grid, just missing out on a podium.
