2018 Austrian Grand Prix, Spielberg, 29 June - 1 July

[MtthsMlw]

Mercedes lobbying the FIA as we speak to introduce the reduced tread tyres at all tracks due to blistering.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Every team besides Ferrari had blistering maybe we actually see the different tyres at some more GP.

[JPBD1990]

Mercedes lobbying the FIA as we speak to introduce the reduced tread tyres at all tracks due to blistering.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Every team besides Ferrari had blistering maybe we actually see the different tyres at some more GP.

You don’t think it made things more interesting? Maybe it wouldn’t be a bad thing if cars had to stop twice a race instead of a 100% secure, bolted on one stop race after race.

But hey, only Ferrari didn’t have blistering so better do it just in case.

[Vanja #66]

Mercedes lobbying the FIA as we speak to introduce the reduced tread tyres at all tracks due to blistering.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Every team besides Ferrari had blistering maybe we actually see the different tyres at some more GP.

Max handled it quite well as far as I could tell.

[GrandAxe]

Calm down its gearbox and fuel presure problem.

My point is only buttressed by the fact that it seems to have affected not just one, but both cars. So, you have strategy and engineering fails thoroughly trashing a race that was theirs for the taking, losing valuable constructor and driver points.

The last time it was folk getting dimensions of the engine wrong, today it was a shocking strategy failure and an equally shocking double DNF.

Something has become old and tired at Merc. After today, Ferrari now leads both constructor and drivers championships.

Yeah it affected both cars today FIRST time after 1955 Italian GP. This was just bad luck and tough track that caused both fails. I agree it was strategy mistake that they havent pited but I am more surprised by Hamilton's behavior after the team's fault. You are at 4 place 11 laps younger tires than people around you in arguably fastest car on a track with 3 DRS zones and you go on and on on a radio instead to race and speak after race. That was not we win and lose together etc.I chear for Mercedes and for Hamilton but this was again whole world is against me moment... If he was at Alonsos place he would crash that car direct in pitwall.

Ha! So you'd rather mention Lewis than blame the team for today's failure? Sorry, but that's either seriously upside down or straight out biased.

That Merc introduced a new engine and straight away suffered a double DNF is statistically beyond bad luck.

That the team has made more strategy errors than others is also statistically beyond bad luck.

The team has to look itself in the mirror, shine lights into its dark nooks and crannies to remove any hints of the lackadaisical practices that tend creep in when an organisation gets used to seeing monumental success come their way.

[Chene_Mostert]

Mercedes lobbying the FIA as we speak to introduce the reduced tread tyres at all tracks due to blistering.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Every team besides Ferrari had blistering maybe we actually see the different tyres at some more GP.

Well we always say its up to the other teams to catch up to the Mercedes PU, so its up to the other teams to get on top of the tyre blistering

[TAG]

It wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Every team besides Ferrari had blistering maybe we actually see the different tyres at some more GP.

Max handled it quite well as far as I could tell.

It's the benefit everyone gets controlling the race from up front.

[Fulcrum]

If Ferrari were actively instructing Raikkonen and Vettel to run to deltas once Ricciardo and Hamilton were out of the way, which is what I'm hearing, then I bet they're both a bit p'd off right now. Why would Ferrari do this? Let one driver try full beans immediately and, if he destroys the tyres, you have another in reserve. For goodness sake, this is strategy for Dummies.

[MtthsMlw]

It wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Every team besides Ferrari had blistering maybe we actually see the different tyres at some more GP.

You don’t think it made things more interesting? Maybe it wouldn’t be a bad thing if cars had to stop twice a race instead of a 100% secure, bolted on one stop race after race.

But hey, only Ferrari didn’t have blistering so better do it just in case.

It definitely spiced up the race with tyres not lasting for 60 laps (unless you're in a Ferrari or really nursing them home) as it should be. I hope we see more races like this and that Silverstone is the last race with the special tyres.

[Justthatek]

Merc again proving they can't handle being under pressure with not pitting under VSC instead going with their usual track position is king.

If I was Hamilton I'd be more pissed with the VSC call then the dnf imo.

Bottas with the pass of the day into T4
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[epo]

It wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Every team besides Ferrari had blistering maybe we actually see the different tyres at some more GP.

Well we always say its up to the other teams to catch up to the Mercedes PU, so its up to the other teams to get on top of the tyre blistering

+100

[Wass85]

Terrible performance by both the Mercedes team and Hamilton, Vettel is deserving of the title if this form continues.

[TAG]

If Ferrari were actively instructing Raikkonen and Vettel to run to deltas once Ricciardo and Hamilton were out of the way, which is what I'm hearing, then I bet they're both a bit p'd off right now. Why would Ferrari do this? Let one driver try full beans immediately and, if he destroys the tyres, you have another in reserve. For goodness sake, this is strategy for Dummies.

Dummies that have to nurse their fuel. No SC meant they HAD to nurse.

[Fulcrum]

If Ferrari were actively instructing Raikkonen and Vettel to run to deltas once Ricciardo and Hamilton were out of the way, which is what I'm hearing, then I bet they're both a bit p'd off right now. Why would Ferrari do this? Let one driver try full beans immediately and, if he destroys the tyres, you have another in reserve. For goodness sake, this is strategy for Dummies.

Dummies that have to nurse their fuel. No SC meant they HAD to nurse.

Has this been mentioned in the reporting or is this your hypothesis?

[popovic94]

My point is only buttressed by the fact that it seems to have affected not just one, but both cars. So, you have strategy and engineering fails thoroughly trashing a race that was theirs for the taking, losing valuable constructor and driver points.

The last time it was folk getting dimensions of the engine wrong, today it was a shocking strategy failure and an equally shocking double DNF.

Something has become old and tired at Merc. After today, Ferrari now leads both constructor and drivers championships.

Yeah it affected both cars today FIRST time after 1955 Italian GP. This was just bad luck and tough track that caused both fails. I agree it was strategy mistake that they havent pited but I am more surprised by Hamilton's behavior after the team's fault. You are at 4 place 11 laps younger tires than people around you in arguably fastest car on a track with 3 DRS zones and you go on and on on a radio instead to race and speak after race. That was not we win and lose together etc.I chear for Mercedes and for Hamilton but this was again whole world is against me moment... If he was at Alonsos place he would crash that car direct in pitwall.

Ha! So you'd rather mention Lewis than blame the team for today's failure? Sorry, but that's either seriously upside down or straight out biased.

That Merc introduced a new engine and straight away suffered a double DNF is statistically beyond bad luck.

That the team has made more strategy errors than others is also statistically beyond bad luck.

The team has to look itself in the mirror, shine lights into its dark nooks and crannies to remove any hints of the lackadaisical practices that tend creep in when an organisation gets used to seeing monumental success come their way.

Whats biased I just told you that I cheer for team and for him in championship!?
You know that gearbox hydraulics doesnt change when you bring new engine? And they introduced it in last race that they have WON. This failures were probably caused because of vibrations or hitting some rough cerbs and hydraulic and fuel lines on some weak spots snaped. On Daniels car exhaust failed as a example. Its probably nothing fundamental wrong with engine design. It is a beast yesterday was clear in qualy.
But you are right about strategy department they are realy slow thinkers and it is showing more and more in races where they dont have big pace advantage.

[AnotherAlex]

It wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Every team besides Ferrari had blistering maybe we actually see the different tyres at some more GP.

Well we always say its up to the other teams to catch up to the Mercedes PU, so its up to the other teams to get on top of the tyre blistering

Definitely. The cars were designed and built with a specification of tyre in mind so to make in-season changes without the agreement of all teams would be disgraceful.